@syag-lchochma @daas-yochid I have repeatedly stated my position and you and the others have repeatedly muddied the waters and gave vaguer and vaguer rebuttals to it (“Just google it”, “mechanchim”, “I once saw…” etc.). You literally leave me no choice but to call you pro-death since you have made it abundantly clear that you don’t care about people dying from COVID and brush it off pretending there’s nothing to be done. All I want is a simple rebuttal to my position: Wearing masks saves lives and the negative effects of it are exaggerated.
To address your most recent goalpost moves:
You cant misquote people, misrepresent their comments, skip half of their points and call it listening.
And you can’t continue to ignore the main drive of my argument and claim that I didn’t address a non-existent rebuttal.
I told you i spoke to several doctors IN PERSON who said the masks won’t stop the spread – you said i should try speaking to doctors.
No doctor will say that it stop the spread entirely, but considering that the vast majority of experts (doctors, health organizations, nurses, EMT orgs, two presidents, and the CDC) are still recommending mask wearings I have difficulty believing that you found multiple doctors who do not recommend it and say it doesn’t help. I believe you probably asked them a very specific question, like “If everyone wears a mask will COVID be over?” and they answered truthfully that no it won’t be over.
From the CDC: Masks should NOT be worn by children under age 2 or anyone who has trouble breathing.
Read how the CDC describe someone with trouble breathing. They are referring specifically to people who regularly are hospitalized with breathing problems and give very strong recommendations that said people should take extra care to socially distant, a far more extreme act than just wearing a mask.
The person who I mentioned was told by his doctor that he cannot wear a mask for long periods.
Yichidim. Edge cases. I never denied that there are people who cannot wear a mask. But like I repeatedly said (which you’ve continued to ignore) those people are so few and far in between we can make special accommodations for them. They absolutely do not account for the sheer number of people who are running around in crowds without masks, and they are absolutely not an excuse for random yutzes to not wear a mask because it makes them uncomfortable.
The fact is that there are gedolim on both sides of the equation.
There are no two sides to the equation anymore than there are two sides to the question of whether the Earth is round or flat. There’s people who are rational and people who are duped. Unfortunately, a lot of gedolim are surrounded by a filter of people who is their only connection to the outside world. So if the filter is biased, the gadol’s opinions share that bias.
Alright that’s enough. No more goalposts movements. Wear a mask. Unless you have some severe health problem there’s no reason not to wear a mask. And no respect should be given to those who say that it’s a personal choice. These are facts and this is my position. Address them, or move on.