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“If so, what points are you trying to make in your various comments on this issue?”
your last comment got me thinking, over the past back and forths youve just been repeating the same thing more than usual. Lets regroup.
you are very fixated on arguing that Darchei and Satmar are the same. This is disingenuous at best. The law requires “substantial equivalency” Ok this isnt exactly defined, but it does have a defitnion, it doesn’t mean whatever you want. IT doesn’t mean exactly the same, nor does it mean not at all the same. As mentioned substantially means “to a great or significant extent.” What exactly is included I don’t know certainly when it comes to education the so called “3 R’s” are included. No reasonable person can argue that stopping English/Math at 4th grade and having homework assignments that look like the ones ithje NYT highlighted is “to a great or significant extent” the same as Public school. On the other hands Students that are fluent in English* can handle Regents like Darchei produces are “to a great or significant extent” similar to Public school even if they have never played an instrument .
Where exactly is the line drawn?. I grant I don’t know, but Satmar is clearly not within it (a point you haven’t really disputed). you want to argue neither is Darchei? So far you haven’t made a convincing argument to that end.
The MAIn issue at hand is what are Parent’s rights when it comes to education. This was my very first comment on the thread, and honestly I’m not sure. Should parents have the right not to teach their kids any English any Math.? I don’t know I never commented one way or the other .
reread my first comment to Besalel .
Further complicating things is that the Parents of the schools themselves disagree. Granted most, presumably, support the Satmar shita, but some don’t. They have rights too.
This was the next significant back and forth this time with Eidee, which is what led to our back/forth. He is under the mistaken notion that if you choose a school you need to accept it no matter what.
To which I replied that I completely disagree with that (both because they didn’t choose the school, they have no choice – we commented on this part a bit though I guess we agree to disagree) AND because the law is on their side.
Hope this helps clarify.
As always feel free to ask any follow up question.
* The Asterisk will leads to another post that is a side point I want to make that I dont want lost in this summary