American; i reread what i called hateful in your post and I should revise – i thought you were saying that “the chasidim” are not spiritual or medakdek etc….and rationalize it with the externals.
Some do, and it’s not hateful to point that out – my apologies.
There are some litvishe who rationalize not being careful about some things because they’re learning, so they’re definitely tzadikim; I’ve heard shmuzen about this from rav avrohom schorr, so I think it’s a universal problem with people rationalizing bad behavior by saying that they’re keeping whatever the “main thing” is in their eyes.