Dear Avirah,
My apologies for bringing this unpleasant topic back. I was offline since before Yom Tov. If you want to move my point away from the general conversation, you can concede that he made a request of Rav Chiya which is not the same as davening to him. I don’t know if it is a good enough answer for the topic and I don’t care. But I am very sure that if you would have an actual recording of the Hienteger that when he dies it’s time to let go and realize that we are mere mortals, that it would have zero impact on any Meshechist.
Now to the gemara. The thrones moving on their own can’t have any relation to the Malachim Omdim of Kedusha. That would a more flagrant kefirah than we have here. I think you were just inferring, but I don’t have any reason to agree with you. Yeshiva shel maalah is past the decorum stage of honorable existence. I made that last sentence up. Please give me a sevara to the opposite effect.
With that admission. I don’t see anything in the gemara about chutzpa. It seems like his human eyes could not stand up to the eternal light of Rav Chiya’s Torah. A mashal would be to stare into the sun for a long time would burn our eyes beyond repair.