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@yankel berel as stated above Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach proves that all of Chazal hold Moshiach can come from the meisim.
The geder Chazal are talking about is “Raui Lehyos Moshiach” fit to be Moshiach.

That alive or dead a tzadik from bais dovid can be considered fit to be Moshiach.

Being this is so that all of Chazal hold Moshiach can come from the meisim. It’s not shayach b’metzius for a Rishon acharon or posek halacha to rule against Moshiach coming from the meisim.

The geder of Fit to be Moshiach should not be confused with the geder of the Goel Tzedek or Goel acharon or the ultimate Redeemer.
Rambam l’Halacha is only talking about the Goel Tzedek. Raui Lehyos Moshiach has no halachic status.

So too rambaN that you quote above about hashkafa. He is also talking about someone that claims is the Goel Tzedek or ultimate Redeemer.

If someone cleans to be the Goel Tzedek they had better fulfill all the messianic prophecies in their lifetime.

There is no contradiction here.
Sounds like you want there to be?

The above was written explicitly in Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach.

Perhaps you should read it, if it’s within your comfort zone.