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חזקת משיח is not the same thing as ראוי להיות משיח or משיח שבדור the latter means absolutely nothing halachicly its just a term used out of respect for a big צדיק who you feel might be cwalefid for the job if Hashem decides to bring משיח in his generation.חזקת משיח however is a halachic term for someone who has the סימנים of the rambam including being a king in א״י and having the majority of yiden ander his control and successfully enforcing all the מצות and all this without any one being Abel to stop him and if someone is בחזקת משיח then as far as we are concerned he is the גואל צדק the only difference between him and משיח ודאי is that the latter’s חזקה can’t be בטול ever and someone who is just חזקת משיח his חזקה could be בטול however until proven wrong he is halachicly משיח. When it talks about someone’s חזקה being proven wrong if he dies or he fails it’s talking about someone who was בחזקת משיחwhich is the same thing as the גואל צדק.in the ספר ציצת נובל צבי from ר׳ יעקב ששפורט against שבתאי צבי ימ״ש he writes that ש״צ can’t be בחזקת משיח because he is in jail and the true משיח’s מלכות can’t fail even לפי שעה. We know also that בר כוכבא lost his חזקת משיח even according to ר״ע when he was killed