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yankel berel
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@katan .

Thanks for this clarification.

This is very important.

here katan broke ranks with somejew.

if we are to take katan at face value [no reason not to]

katan agrees here that pikuach nefesh supersedes any understanding of the three oaths

so [even if] organizing an army to defend the yoshvei EY would contravene the oaths , nevertheless bimkom pikuach nefesh , this is mandated

katan argues that the IDF is not a good fit, because its involvement with the three hamurot.

meaning avoda zara giluy arayot and shfihut damim.

the Q is now . the mere fact that the IDF is osek in those three , is that enough to stop a frum jew’s involvement in the IDF

or do we need to consider the candidate, the frum jew’s own participation in the three hamurot ?
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meaning : if the frum jew himself will not participate in the three hamurot , but other people within that army are,

is that ground to prohibit the frum jew’s participation in the IDF to save lives ?
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