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Nathan, unless you know me personally, how do you conjecture where I live or near what Yeshivah? I do not believe I have ever said anything about where I live. Are there no Yeshivahs in towns other than Far Rockaway, or kids congregating on streets other than Central Avenue? In any case, at the Yeshivah next door to my house, it always HAS been as bad as that. Boys used to come into my backyard at 1-2 AM, light fireworks (almost caused a fire by me once, and made me fearful that there was something smoldering, which went into my roof), woke my sleeping baby who was sick and finally had gone to sleep when they carried on outside even after my husband went out several times to shoo them away and tell them to be quiet, and urinated and threw up all over the law. (One was witnessed by a neighbor who came out and said he calls the cops, and the vomit I found in the morning, along with crazy string, beer bottles, and other assorted trash.

PLEASE do not take me for a fool. Let’s asume I am in Far Rockaway and the Yeshivah has not had a mesiba for a few years. Nevertheless, by your own admission boys from out of the area congregated there, doing these things, because they knew the Yeshivah USED to have a party like that, or because they are collecting (LATE AT NIGHT?????? I don’t think so). I do not believe the R”Y was there, because I know of the R”Y from the Yeshivah you mentioned and he would not condone such behavior in or out of his Yeshivah at ANY time. I know many people from your neighborhood, and I have asked them about the so-called “bouncer” and they say this was not done until VERY recent years, because of the hundreds of complaints the R”Y received about such behavior on and near his school’s premises, possibly originating from outsiders. Were he actually present there for the duration of the entire mesiba, he would surely have recognized if strangers were invading his school and acting out. It should not take repeated complaints for several years to get the problem rectified, there or any other place.

YFR802, you are a kid, so please do not disrespect an adult who tells you what was observed by a Yeshivah in her neighborhood, whether it is yours or somewhere else, and there are a LOT of neighborhoods with Yeshivos, not only in Far Rockaway. I do NOT have to be dan l’chaf z’chus when I see such chillul being committed, and if it is committed

nearby your Yeshivah, whether or not is it committed by that yeshivah’s students, THAT yeshivah will be the one that gets the flak, especially if they already know from experience that this is likely to happen on or near their premises.