cherrybim posted;
hereorthere – “Unlike you, I did not ‘assume’ anything.”
Years ago EVERYONE, including Rav Gornish, accepted and used the “Big Five” hashgachos; so we have every right to assume that Rav Moshe did also, especially since his Yeshiva and his family did. ;;
My response;
Please tell me where I can find such a halacha in Shulchan Aurich?
Also please tell me where you have this info that he and his family for sure used all those hescherim.
Also are you saying it is impossible that any quality or people that he might have relied on, has/have changed since then, in those hescherim?
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Doesn’t Torah teach us that it has “70 faces” IE…Ways to Darshan it out?
I just thought of it in what could possibly be one of those ways.
Also that story was probably not about Cholov Yisroael, it might have been about learning Zohar about which there are many warnings of who should and who should not learn it.
Also it does not say that any Rav had paskened that if given a choice people should be machmir and he was following any Rav.
To go from that case to our situation, and apply that we are wrong to be machmir is something I think a Rav would have pasken.
I do not know what “b’shas hadchak” means.
I did not ask in those words from Rav Gronish if C’S’ was
“mutar gamur” but when he told me it wasn’t “the same” that did not seem to indicate it was “mutar gamer” (of course I’m guessing here, but it seems to me to be a logical guess).
You posted ; “and so I heard first hand besheim R’ Dovid and R’ Reuven – the sons of R’ Moshe. And I posted this more than once on the thread, so you must not have been paying attention.”
My response; First of all, before this post that I am responding to I never saw the term “mutar gamer” in this thread. If it was there, and I missed it I am sorry but I do not remember seeing it so I doubt you could have said it, many times.
Second; Are you saying that Rav Moshes sons paskened in his name that one was not allowed to be machmir in holding by Cholov Yisroeal and that they said so, in those words?
“CY is not a chumra. CS is a heter. CY is l’chatchila”
Is esentially, what Rav Gronish told me.
He did not use the word Chumra or heter, he said that CY was L’Chatchila and other relied on the psak by Rav Moshe which sounds like it was a heter, they relied on even though he did not use the word, heter.
But he clearly did use the word L’Chatchila in saying that C’Y’ most certainly was.