i *think* we all can agree on the following, basically.
and i believe this will show we all pretty much agree on the parallel issue, its just a matter of not understanding the whole of what each other is saying:
scenario 1. man in crowded street takes out his wallet and openly counts his hunderd dollar bills. soon after, it is stolen from him by robber.
scenario 2. robber stam takes a mans wallet
in scenario 2. the robber is 100% wrong. the man bears no responsibility.
in scenario 1. the robber is also 100% wrong, and his punishment should be exactly the same as in the other scenario. however the victim is also partially responsible for what happened to him, ALTHOUGH IT IN NO WAY REDUCES THE ROBBERS RESPONSIBILITY.