Re the notarabbi quote: never fear, I have no problems with not being able to learn gemara. I would suggest that if someone quotes something like this, it be crystal clear that this is pashut pshat, and something for us to take with us l’maaseh. I happen to have what is probably a very basic question: But she was behind the fence! And who was the father of this boy?
I don’t need answers, just saying that it’s dangerous to throw stuff like that into discussions such as these.
And was it notI who said that someone was asking about shidduchim and out of town girls wears pleated skirts, in town wear straight?
Wow, just when I thought I heard it all….