Kasha,
You are being intellectually dishonest.
I quoted those Gemaras in response to the Gemara in Taanis. You posted that they were referring to divine punishment. I replied that people executed those judgements. I was not responding to your quoting of the quoting of the Chazon Ish.
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You need to think deep and hard about what you accept as reliable & quotable and something you base your life on. It is no doubt convient to be able to dismiss the opinion of somehow who sees things differently based a flippant “anti-torah blogs” without any basic logical reasons. But it doesn’t actually mean anything. Storybooks are not Halacha. Storybooks are stories. But Haskafah comes from Rabbonim themselves, not what the Chazon Ish said – to make a point. Do you the every word the Chazon Ish said he said Halachicly? Yes, I know, mamish mamish, kadosh v’tahor, if we would understand…that this is the silly attitude of artscroll biographies.
Yes, I am disagreeing with you. I will leave you to analyze your own psycology and motivations; I request that you do me the honor of responding to my actual points. Of course, if you have no actual points, you may continue to conjecture about my motivations, and protect your opinions from any arguement. In which case I have little to respond, if the basis for having a valid opinion is to have yours.
The Chazon Ish was a human being. He said something to make a point. He would not have executed a woman based on that. And quoting it here is irresponsible. Ever Gadol has a Torah Sh’Baal Peh and a Torah SH’bKsav. Yes, and this the problem with these seforim, that the context of what was said is totally lost. When Gedolim write, they tell us everything they feel we need to know. When a Gadol says something, for a certain time, place and person – there’s context. Which is lost. Which is why these sforim are fine for hissorerus. But silly to base haskafah or Halacha on.
SJS is right. While Rabbonim are responsible for their communities , and we as a community are responsible for our entire community, and each head of a family for their family – there is an unhealthiness, to put it mildly, of constantly analyzing women’s hemlines and styles. This is another frum atzas hayetzer to get men to focus on women’s dress or lack thereof, and blame them for the effects.
Which is why I personally think this thread is silly. Chazal had power, and established Haskafah for Khal Yisrael. Do we?
Then perhaps men should focus on the details of esrogim, and not women’s skirts. No doubt other women, mechanos, – Rabbonim, parents, will handle that. Sigh. And I have pulled into the blutteh as well. A Gmar Chasimah Tovah. I have much to think about. Personally.
Yes, this is why I have been mocking this conversation.