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Dave Hirsch
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Ludwigvanquixote, I may have been dreaming but a picture is worth more than a thousand words.

Here: http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/rallyhitler.jpg

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Here: http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2010/10/03/nazi-sign-spotted-at-one-nation-protest/

Here: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/05/30/swastikas-and-nazi-references-pro-illegal-immigration-rally-will-media-care

Spinning the Torah into your radical agenda: do you have any answers to those that didn’t spin? The Rishonim (Rosh, Rashba, Rambam, Ritva and Shita) mentioned here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/jews-ought-to-vote-republican-the-torah-supports-conservatism ???

Bribery: Do you know those that lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Did you ever bump into Charlie Rangel?

Equal: Yes! All people should have equal rights! No Reparations! No Progressive Taxing!

And… Did you ever hear of the term ‘Am Hanivchar’?

Race Card: Who demonized the GOP women running in this election. Who played the Sex Card against them?

Evil Eye: Yes. Those that have an evil eye to those that are more successful (aka Democrats).

All People To Heaven: Did you learn the Mishne (in Sanhedrin) that precedes the saying of Pirkei Avos: Kol Yisroel Yesh Lahem Chelek…

…freedom of choice is granted: Couldn’t spin this one, huh???

…account-book lies open, the hand writes, and all who wish to borrow may come and borrow: Why didn’t you spin this into the Frank-Dodd-Clinton Law that led to the Housing Crises?

…scorn any man, and do not discount any thing. For there is no man who has not his hour, and no thing that has not its place: Ma Inyan Shmitta Etzel Har Sinai???

He also saw a skull floating upon the water. Said he to it: Because you drowned others, you were drowned; and those who drowned you, will themselves be drowned. Doesn’t this remind you of the 2000’s when the Dems worked against Bush on every measure, from ‘stealing the votes from Gore’ to the Iraq War on to the Bush’s car into the ditch? Now is payback time!

If you eat of toil of your hands, fortunate are you, and good is to you: Did you read this before to copied & pasted? How does this fit with Socialism?

GOP attempts to gut public education: I would feel good. This would be the choice you mentioned before but omitted your spin…

This does not just mean bringing moshiach… I would just name you an Apikores! Pollution? How about… V’Haaretz Nasan Livnei Adam… it is for our dispense. Hashem can take care of the rest.

Pray for the integrity of the government; for were it not for the fear of its authority, a man would swallow his neighbor alive: Does that mean Social Medicine, Government Motors etc.? How does Free Enterprise and Capitalism make a man swallow his neighbor? Well, in communist Russia they did just that. We might need the Government for Police dept., Law and Order and Military, all which the Democrats defund and GOP pushes…

Deregulation means taking away the government that caused the cheats of all those things you mentioned. Additionally, half of the sponsors to these bills (e.g. Sarbanes-“Oxley” Act).

righteous one is benevolent and gives: If one is forced to give charity how do we get to choose being an evil heart? If charity is by choice (as the Torah suggests) you can choose. The Mishne says you shall choose good and be benevolent (note: not forced) and give.

Which is the right path for man to choose for himself? Whatever is harmonious for the one who does it, and harmonious for mankind: I see those that give charity while protecting others as harmonious to mankind while protecting his fortune as harmonious to himself.

divided and lukewarm in their support of Israel: It isn’t lukewarm support, it is strongly against!

It is to my mind that the Dems are tsdikkim, each and every one compared to the GOP: Hey! not one Republican signed this letter (http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmideastpolicy/qt/congressional-letter-gaza-siege.htm) 54 Dems did!

And do you include: Cynthia Ann McKinney, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, Charles Barron and many others that find/found an enclave within the Democratic Party?

Torah does not equal liberal socialism: The Torah DOES! The Torah is an higher authority that understands that socialism isn’t equal! Shame on you for such words!

Tebags: Mentioning this word tells me how extreme you are and how far you take YOUR views!

ignoring the strident calls of the Torah: Did you see the post entailing on what justice means according to OUR Torah. And our Torah needs commentaries. I stated everything before and here it is again: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/jews-ought-to-vote-republican-the-torah-supports-conservatism

As to support of homosexuality. I have yet to see on Democrat run on a “be gay that’s a great idea” platform: I haven’t seen one that isn’t. Isn’t Barney Frank enough for you?

And while you are correct in having some Tea Partyers mentioning Nazi’s or sayings, it is because they are regular people and not polished politicians that can disguise it. Yet, Eric Cantor refuted that individual, and, if you live in that district you can vote for his opponent. But they shouldn’t all get that title (Do you say that about orthodox-Jewish Joel Pollack too?).

Bottom Line: You’re a spinner that will do anything and everything to demonize the Republicans and claim the Democrats as the best. you will take money from others but never share anything. And let me tell you this: your post here was one big stumble block that you so-much felt comfortable with. If you are Jewish you are a modern day Maskil. Someone might suggest that voting for a Democrat isn”t against the Torah or claim that the earmarks and goodies overrule everything, but to spin the Torah like this is nothing but clear cut Apikorsus.