It is sad that truly refined and yashar people are a rare. I heard one fellow quote a rav about people with rotten manners that balk (or worse) at constructive criticism are the neshamos of the Erev Rav that are still amoung us. I countered that that is dependent on the concept of gilgul, and that this concept is not that well accepted as truth, or even as of Torah origin. I got back a a long string of nonsense and conjecture. Also sad that intellectual discourse is also not too common.
