Health you make an excellent point of “nogeah b’davar” and Yita, I was avoiding saying this but you push me too far. The molester that I mentioned in another thread about a certain yeshiva sits on one of the Vaad’s in the Agudah with the other Rabbonim and yes they are all covering for him. His books are published by Artscroll and still being distributed to Judaica stores and are available on the shelves. Nothing has changed since they all found out about him. He is has 100% protection. The Agudah is 100% complicant and Nogeah B’davar.
Yita, you want to show me how much you know, well you have pushed me to show you how much I know. I wasn’t going to disclose this, but you wanted to know everything that I do. You wanted me to verify my information and go head to head with me, you wanted to show me how sure you are, well so am I. The Rav that molested my friend is a big chaver and a member in good standing of the Agudah and sits on one of their Vaad Panels. He never lost one ounce of Kovod and it was never considered to remove him from the Vaad. He has destroyed countless numbers of bochurim. Please tell me in your opinion does he deserve the kovod he is getting? Does he deserve the protection he is getting? My friend had a private meeting with him and his sons who came to beg him not to out him. He has proof of this meeting which I can’t disclose without his permission, but should he choose to make it public it would blow the top off this issue, especially in that particular yeshiva and town, not to mention the Agudah.
Do you get it now, they drove 5 hours to have this meeting with my friend to beg him not to say anything. They didn’t come to beg for mechilah and apologize for all the pain and agony he caused, they came to beg him to keep quiet. That is the nature of the villain.
It is very difficult to decide what to say and what not to say. I am NOT the victim and it is the victim who has the right to OUT the abuser. But all those who self-rightesously believe that advocates are low-lifes who just want to bash rabbonim and refuse to undertand how painful it is to no longer believe in and trust the Rabbonim and the most important orthodox organization that you relied on all your life. What does it feel like to cut off your right arm? Do you know? What does it feel like to remove something in your life that you depended on? Can you stop using your car? Can you stop having running water in your kitchen? Can you stop having heat in your home? Can you give up your bed and sleep on the floor? Do you know how hard it was to have the rug pulled out from under our feet? Do you think this is easy for us? Do you think this is fun? Do you think I like saying these things? Where are the Tzadikim that were MY mentors and the Gedolim of my generation? Who can I trust, who can I turn to? I used to speak to one Rav almost daily because he advocated for kids and victims then he told me about the Agudah Rabbonim and he told me that when push comes to shove he has to stand with the Agudah in public and I had to walk away from him. How do you think that made me feel? After a few years he has changed his mind and now he gives lectures all over telling everyone to go to the police.