Josh31 -So you still didn’t answer my point -people like Meretz are Yad Hashem and not Maaseh Soton, right????
“Maybe if they had been provided vocational training before they turned away from Torah observance they would still be Torah observant.
Denying a Jew vocational training is SHMAD.”
Oh because the Yeshivos don’t offer it -so they are Shmading e/o? Where did they ever deny s/o from going to school? Ya know when I was ready to look for Parnassa -I applied and got into technical school and then college. What prevents any Frum person from doing the same? This logic is totally Krum! This must be the same logic that the Tzionim are using, but they aren’t Masseh Soton, they are the Yad Hashem. Right, whatever you say!