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wtsp, you can ask farkert as well- if Eretz Yisroel is ours, why root against the state? Let the Zionists get the land ready for the maaminim bnei maaminim to take it over when moshiach comes.
Hakatan first off relax on your mean statements. Everyone can say whatever they want. Just because it doesn’t fit your ideology doesn’t mean it doesn’t belong someone we aren’t a clique. (Or we sure act like it sometimes,pathetic) Adverse opinions are important so everyone finds the truth. If we all agreed with each other we would never learn something. You don’t have to agree but whoa chil
Damoshe your not sounding coherent. What the guy said. Makes sense. Screaming it’s our state sounds very uh….childish. The reason there _is_ a state at all and or “belong’ to Jews at all is because of the state so the guy is right he supports the state even if he doesn’t support the apikores aspect it _makes_ sense. Live in reality. Kindly
Always ask questions what? Skewed, crooked logic, or someones opinions or beliefs system that they formed by speaking about what they think? Your literally saying we should all censure ourselves for you. Not say our opinions. Only think one way. Your ok?
wtsp: why is it hypocritical?
>>> “I can support the State of Israel, without supporting the apikorsis of many of its founders.”
wtsp> This is the most hypocritical sentence I’ve ever read.Wtsp, current leaders of Israel did not inherit power from their founders-fathers. They earned their position in an election. Thought experiment: R Sonnenfeld starts the medinah in 1910 (and why didn’t he?). It is all according to halocho but also a democracy. Then, war refugees and sephardim arrive and they vote in today’s parties. At the end, the matzav is the same. You need to deal with current state. Does it matter who started it.
This is not a new situation. We had a melech dragging bones of his father in public. Do we judge him being a bad melech because of his father, or do we judge him based on his actions?
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