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August 7, 2025 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #2435536☕️coffee addictParticipant
“We Will Die and Not Enlist!”: Thousands Protest in Yerushalayim as Police Clash with Bnei Torah
To all the commentators there and those that post in the CR that ask “if they have time to protest they can go fight” or “why aren’t they sitting and learning” the reason is because the Gedolei Torah that they follow said to do it, therefore it follows that what they were doing has the same benefits as learning Torah
August 8, 2025 10:06 am at 10:06 am #2435571Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcoffee > therefore it follows that what they were doing has the same benefits as learning Torah
you suggest transformation between different substances upon Rabbi’s decision?
When malach told Yehoshua that he came because Jews were not learning during the war – Yehoshua could just say that when I order the fight, it counts as learning?! Or why he did not designate bnei Levi to sit and learn?
August 8, 2025 10:06 am at 10:06 am #2435572Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAnd, according to your opinion, it is possible for a gadol to declare that going to the Army is equivalent to learning?
Then, I suggest 2 approaches:
1) follow RZ gedolim
2) respectfully approach your gadol and ask whether he is amendable for such declaration l’ darkei shalom. Maybe, just a tryout for a week before end of bein haazmanim.August 8, 2025 10:06 am at 10:06 am #2435574HaKatanParticipantcoffee addict:
I don’t think it’s the same benefits, as Torah Learning is generally higher than other mitzvos, but it does make it the right thing for them to do, as you noted.August 8, 2025 10:10 am at 10:10 am #2435649anIsraeliYidParticipantSo let said “Gedolim” explain why they told their followers to leave the Beis Medrash and go protest. If those leaders believe that Torah learning is so efficacious in providing protection, then they should order their followers to learn more – not to protest.
an Israeli Yid
August 8, 2025 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #2435734☕️coffee addictParticipantAaq,
“you suggest transformation between different substances upon Rabbi’s decision?”
Can you rephrase that in simpler English?
“When malach told Yehoshua that he came because Jews were not learning during the war – Yehoshua could just say that when I order the fight, it counts as learning?! Or why he did not designate bnei Levi to sit and learn?“
I don’t think Yehoshua was the same scenario because he could’ve asked the urim vteumim and that was a milchemes mitzvah
August 8, 2025 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #2435790HaKatanParticipantan Israeli Zionist:
Right. And since learning Torah is indeed more important than anything else, then they should also never stop to eat and drink because learning is more important. -
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