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September 21, 2025 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #2452496BochurwithhighstandardsParticipant
What happened today in 770 is beyond embarrassing. It’s a chillul Hashem of the highest order. Not once, but twice — in Shacharis and again in Mincha — the Rebbe’s shul was hijacked by fighting, screaming, and even punching. Yes, punching, inside the daled amos of tefillah, in the very place the Rebbe davened. The aron kodesh was closed mid-psicha, the gabbai stood helpless, mispallelim stood in shame, and police marched into 770 as if it were a street brawl.
Is this what we’ve come to? Is this the kavod of 770? Is this the kavod of the Rebbe? Every time this happens, every time the Tzfatim decide their shtick matters more than tefillah, the whole world sees Chabad as a laughingstock. What should be a place of kedusha has become a circus, and the price is the Rebbe’s honor.
Let’s stop pretending. This is not “mesirus nefesh.” It’s ego. It’s power. It’s selfishness dressed up in chassidishe slogans. To sing Yechi during psicha and then start fights when told to stop? That’s not love of the Rebbe — that’s spitting in the face of the Rebbe’s kavod.
And we, the community, stand by while 770 becomes a battleground. Guests walk in and see chaos. Bochurim grow up thinking violence in a beis midrash is normal. The chillul Hashem echoes around the globe. Enough is enough.
This is no longer just “bochurim shtick.” This is no longer just noise. When mispallelim cannot finish davening without a police presence, when an aron kodesh is opened and closed in chaos, when fists fly where tefillos should rise — we must admit: the situation is out of control. And it cannot continue.
So we are asking — no, we are demanding: where are the rabbonim? Where are the leaders? How many more days can 770 run like a hefker beis ha’medrash, without order, without discipline, without responsibility? How long will the name of Chabad be dragged through the mud while the Rebbe’s mikdash me’at is turned into a boxing ring?
The Tzfatim have proven, time and again, that they will not stop themselves. They do not respect the gabbai, they do not respect tefillah, and they do not respect the kehilla. They shout “mesirus nefesh,” but what they practice is selfishness, arrogance, and violence.
It is time — past time — for our rabbonim and our battei dinim to come out with a clear, united psak and a firm reprimand. Not vague statements. Not soft words. But a declaration that this chillul Hashem, this fighting, this disrespect for tefillah, is assur and will not be tolerated.
And words must be followed by action. Real enforcement. Real accountability. If necessary, trained personnel to keep order. Because without order, 770 will not be a mikdash me’at. It will be remembered as a madhouse. And that is the greatest chillul Hashem of all.
We owe it to the Rebbe, to ourselves, and to klal Yisrael to restore kavod and kedusha to 770. The time for silence is over. Rabbonim, hanhala, leadership: the kehilla is waiting for you to stand up and act.
September 22, 2025 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm #2452903SQUARE_ROOTParticipantChabad has accepted a False Moshiach and a False Navi.
The name of this False Moshiach and False Navi is Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.
They cannot be persuaded out of their false beliefs with any facts or logic.
Thousands of useful idiots defend Chabad, because Chabad does Kiruv and Chesed.
They do not understand that we can praise Chabad’s Kiruv and Chesed,
and at the same time, condemn their False Moshiach and their False Navi.September 22, 2025 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm #2452932RedlegParticipantWho are the Tzfatim? What’s up with them?
September 22, 2025 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm #2452935RedlegParticipantNever mind. I Googled them.
September 22, 2025 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm #2452945HaKatanParticipantChabad’s late Rebbe seems to have intentionally not named a successor Rebbe. Had he done so, this would not happen, as they would have a Rebbe to ask.
September 25, 2025 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #2453286ujmParticipantIs it still a possibility, at least theoretically, for Chabad Lubavitch to install a new Rebbe?
September 25, 2025 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #2453502Sam KleinParticipantTime to hire a professional security company that provides security guards. And anyone that goes out of the norm or in anger mode will be removed by the security guard and steps taken from it happening again
September 25, 2025 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #2453937GadolhadorahParticipant“Is it still a possibility, at least theoretically, for Chabad Lubavitch to install a new Rebbe?”
Any Chassidus can designate its own leadership but the question is who really speaks on behalf of Chabad? While the administrative/educational apparatus at 770 is nominally controlled by R’ Krinsky (Merkos L’Inyonei Chinuch, Machne Israel, etc.) its unclear if they really speak for Chabad on matters of hashkafah and belief systems including z’man moishiach. Certaintly, the Tzfatim and related Moishichist Groups wouldn’t accept Krinsky’s hashgacha on a glass of water.
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sSeptember 25, 2025 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #2454005Happy new yearParticipantזה מה שקרה לי
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סתכל עליוהוא לא נכנס
“September 28, 2025 9:10 am at 9:10 am #2454414WiseSage58ParticipantLubavitch are making a ridicule of their movement.
September 28, 2025 9:24 am at 9:24 am #2454102Yserbius123ParticipantNu? So you move! Vizhnitz did it. 45 did it. Ger did it several times. If there are enough people who feel like you do that the center of your chassidus no longer represents your chassidus, then leave and start anew somewhere else! I hear Monticello is beautiful these days.
September 29, 2025 11:28 am at 11:28 am #2454856qwerty613ParticipantTo the Group
I’m waiting for the apologists. Tzfatim don’t represent Chabad. And Cunin and Manis Friedman don’t represent Chabad. And the Meshichistim don’t represent Chabad. And the fellow(s) who put up Messiah is Here signs doesn’t represent Chabad. President Truman famously said, “The buck stops here.” Who, if anyone, does represent Chabad?”
September 29, 2025 11:28 am at 11:28 am #2454857qwerty613ParticipantTo the Group
I’m waiting for the apologists. Tzfatim don’t represent Chabad. And Cunin and Manis Friedman don’t represent Chabad. And the Meshichistim don’t represent Chabad. And the fellow(s) who put up Messiah is Here signs doesn’t represent Chabad. President Truman famously said, “The buck stops here.” Who, if anyone, does represent Chabad?”
September 29, 2025 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #2455374yankel berelParticipantqwerty is right in this point
when you learn the utterances and writings of their leader properly ,
all of those erliche habad groups do represent real habad ideology
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.September 29, 2025 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #2455424GadolhadorahParticipantWho, if anyone, does represent Chabad?”
No one “represents” Chabad. It has morphed from a traditional monolithic chassidus whose Rebbe exercised unchallenged leadership to a fragmented set of subgroups with a shared preference for Black Fedoras, a foundational focus on Tanya, kiruv and kabbalah but passionately different views on the Geulah and Z’man Moishiach. When you get away from Eastern Parkway and Detroit, the differences fade substantially.
September 29, 2025 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #2455428Uncle BenParticipantAre there any Rabonim or Bais Din that the Tzfatim respect?
If not, what good would a firm psak do?
Maybe Rubio can revoke their visas since they seem to be from Israel.October 1, 2025 1:30 am at 1:30 am #2455501LemaysehParticipantDJT is a giant Lubavitcher Chusid, he went to the grave of their Rebbuh. Maybe he can whip them into shape?
October 3, 2025 8:38 am at 8:38 am #2456176qwerty613ParticipantTo Lemayseh
President Trump isn’t a Chussid. He is, as Square Root said, one of Chabad’s useful idiots. The point is that Chabad doesn’t listen to anyone. They are completely in the clutches of the Yetzer hora who sold them a bill of goods that the Rebbe runs the world.
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Clearly Chabad doesn’t care about anything that real Jews say. What’s interesting is that if we look at the comments coming from CH in the aftermath of this incident, the Lubavichers are aware that there’s a problem, but they won’t do anything about it. Ultimately, Hashem will take matters in His own hand(s.)
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