June 30, 2011 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #597726
discuss recipes, tips, ideas, your experiences.
is this diet healthy?
does it work?
what are good foods to eat on this diet?
whateverJune 30, 2011 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #786393
you giving us permission or a space to do it? whats your plan?June 30, 2011 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #786394
just a thread to discuss this, if people are interestedJune 30, 2011 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #786395
by the way
did you ever hear of capitalization?June 30, 2011 3:42 pm at 3:42 pm #786396
NOPE WHAT IS THAT? WHEN WOULD YOU USE IT?June 30, 2011 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #786397
are you happy with my last few posts? does that make you happier to see that your work is paying off?June 30, 2011 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #786398
okay, okay, enough, i get it.June 30, 2011 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #786399TheGoqParticipant
I tried to eat atkins once but he woke upJune 30, 2011 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #786400HealthParticipant
Atkins diet is really basically no carb and high Fat.
A low carb diet isn’t Really Atkins! It might be Dean Ornish’es diet.June 30, 2011 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #786401mewhoParticipant
any fad diet works for the time you are on it strictly. the minute you get off it , the pounds come back.
i’ve done lots of them and thats exactly what happens.
a person needs to have healthy food , moderation and exercise.June 30, 2011 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #786402
atkins is not high fat. it CAN be high fat, but that is not an integral part of the theory. the idea of ketosis and what he calls the “metabolic advantage” is entirely due to the restriction of carbohydrates. many eat primarily protein and vegetables.June 30, 2011 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #786403
the ornish diet on the other hand is a low-fat, vegan diet with little if any carbohydrate restriction. grains play a large part in his planJune 30, 2011 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #786404
and the atkins diet is certainly not “no carb”. the first phase is very low carb allowing only 20 grams for the first two weeks, this is graduALLY INCREASED FAIRLY QUICKLY. whoops, sorryJune 30, 2011 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #786405oomisParticipant
I was on this diet for six months, and it was really oustanding for me. The initial two weeks were not easy (what diet is?), but I kept really busy and time passed quickly. Many people feel it is not a healthy diet because it is not balanced, but the idea is not to completely cut carbs, but to lower the amount one ingests each day. I became quite adept at knowing the carb counts in the food I ate, and made smarter choices.
This diet is great for people with blood sugar issues – it helps stabilize the sugar, and because the weight comes off very quickly, the sugar is lowered. My cholesterol was surprisingly excellent, as well, even though fat is in the diet.
I never felt better than when I was on the diet. I fell off the wagon when I had back to back chasunahs for two weeks straight in June, several years ago. After my fifth wedding, all the good had been undone, and I never went back on, to my deep regret.
South Beach is a slightly healthier form of this diet.July 17, 2011 1:49 am at 1:49 am #786406☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
An acquaintance of mine claims he lost a gall bladder to the Atkins diet.July 17, 2011 3:01 am at 3:01 am #786407amichaiParticipant
wih any change in healthy eating, the individual should really speak to his gp first, to see what is best for him etc. a person might need to add vitamins to his diet. I found “according to your blood type” a very healthy diet. It’s hard for a diet to be “one type fits all.”.July 17, 2011 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #786408HealthParticipant
Mod 80 – “atkins is not high fat. it CAN be high fat, but that is not an integral part of the theory.”
I got my info that Atkins is high fat from the following researchers, esp. the last one. I posted this a year ago under “High Chol.” I think it’s revelant to the discussion:
Sam -Here is the AHA statement: “The AHA advisory, published in the association’s respected journal Circulation, studied existing research and the diets themselves. It concluded that there’s no proof these diets are effective for long-term weight loss and warned that they may cause potential health risks for those who follow them for more than a short time. In addition to the Atkins diet, the advisory panel reviewed the Zone, Protein Power, Sugar Busters and Stillman diets.”
But I guess you and your few friends, know more than many, many medical professionals. BTW, do you know what triglycerides (fat) does to your arteries? It clogges them up and causes heart disease and strokes.
Posted 1 year ago #
From the Mayo clinic: “Weight loss
The claim: The Atkins diet claims that it can prevent or improve serious health conditions, such as diabetes, high blood pressure and cardiovascular disease. Atkins also claims that digestive problems such as heartburn, gallstones, gas and bloating will improve when you greatly reduce carbohydrate consumption.
The claim: The Atkins diet says that exercise is a vital part of its approach. It also says exercise is important to maintaining weight loss and achieving other health benefits. And it disputes any notion that you can do the Atkins diet successfully without exercise.
The reality: Physical activity and exercise help you burn more calories, aiding weight loss. Regular physical activity is also vital to prevent regaining the weight you’ve lost and, of course, provides numerous health benefits. Although the Atkins diet says exercise is important, it doesn’t specify how much you need. Healthy adults typically need at least 30 minutes of physical activity a day, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. However, if you’re obese or you want to lose weight, you may need to increase your activity.
It’s not known with certainty what risks, if any, the Atkins diet may pose to your health, especially over the long term.
Some health experts believe that eating a large amount of fat and protein from animal sources, as allowed on the Atkins diet, can increase your risk of heart disease or some cancers. However, it’s not known what risks, if any, the Atkins diet may pose over the long term because most of the studies about it have lasted for a year or less.
In addition, the Atkins diet isn’t appropriate for everyone. For example, Atkins warns that people with severe kidney disease should not follow the diet. It also cautions that the weight-loss phases of the diet aren’t suitable for women who are pregnant or nursing. The Atkins diet recommends that you consult your doctor before starting the diet, especially if you have diabetes or gout or take diuretics, insulin or oral diabetes medications.
There are other risks associated with any commercial weight-loss diet:
?If you skip a face-to-face evaluation with your health care provider, you may be unaware of important medical concerns.
?The diet isn’t tailored to your specific situation, including your weight-loss goals and any health conditions you might have.
?A very restrictive menu may cause you to give up on your weight-loss goals.
?You may not get enough fiber on low-carb diets, which may increase your risk of constipation, certain kinds of cancer and other digestive problems.
?Unless you take a multivitamin or nutritional supplement, you may be at risk of certain nutritional deficiencies.”
Posted 1 year ago #
To all the health “know it alls”; -I’m really getting tired of trying to convince you to be healthy. I actually make money when people are sick, so I’m not doing this for myself. From Reuters:
” WASHINGTON – The high-fat Atkins diet can cause long-term damage to blood vessels, as well as some of the inflammation linked with heart and artery disease, U.S. researchers reported on Tuesday.
In contrast, low-fat regimens such as the South Beach and Ornish diets lowered cholesterol and appeared to benefit artery function, they said.
“It really is the Atkins diet that is the worst,” Dr. Michael Miller, director of preventive cardiology at the University of Maryland Medical Center in Baltimore, said in a telephone interview.
“The Atkins diet caused the LDL levels to go up by about 7 percent, whereas in the Ornish and South Beach diets … they went down 7 to 10 percent.”
Low density lipoprotein or LDL is the “bad” cholesterol that clogs blood vessels.
Various researchers have tested the benefits of the popular diets and reached wildly differing conclusions. Miller designed what he said was a unique approach — to see how people fared once they stopped losing weight on any of the diets.
Studies show that people usually lose weight rapidly on any diet if they follow it properly and the weight loss itself can cause cholesterol to plummet.
“When you lose weight everything looks good but after a while you plateau and you hit a maintenance stage,” said Miller, who presented his findings to a meeting of the American Heart Association in Orlando, Florida.
His team studied 18 people, each of whom completed a full month on each of the three diets. They were carefully monitored to ensure that they did not lose weight.
The Atkins diet was set to deliver 50 percent of calories as fat, the South Beach was 30 percent fat and the Ornish diet, designed by nutritionist Dr. Dean Ornish, was 10 percent fat.
While on each diet the volunteers were tested for levels of blood fats, including cholesterol and markers for inflammation.
The researchers used ultrasound scans to measure the flexibility and dilation of blood vessels and measured proteins in the blood that can indicate inflammation.
“Some markers of inflammation were increased by as much as 30 to 40 percent during the Atkins phase, whereas during the South Beach and Ornish phases, the markers either were stable or went down, some by as much as 15 to 20 percent,” Miller said.
Most studies have shown that diets that stress vegetables, low-fat sources of protein such as beans and legumes, and whole grains provide the best long-term weight loss. Many low-fat diets allow processed carbohydrates such as white flour, which have also been shown to be unhealthy, experts agree.
“We don’t recommend the Atkins diet,” Miller said. “Why not start out with a diet that will be healthier for you in the long run after weight loss?” “
Maybe you really don’t know everything about health, just because you read something on some natural health site or blog!
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