March 1, 2010 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #675578jewish and working 22Member
Look throughout the the talmud, I am not in front of one so I can’t give you an example off hand.
Also, when you have two Rabbis who come to different rulings on the same topic, who do you listen to (i.e. B’ Shamai and B’ Hillel) or any “Rabbi” in our times. Almost never do you find nowadays a halacha that is endorsed entirely across the board (in other words it isn’t “black and white” but gray).
There is no way that halacha is “black and white”. It is gray. Which is why it can be applied to all sorts of circumstances. If halacha was black and white, then we would never have any disputes (see example above, who have disputed throughout the entire Talmud). If ha;acha was simple “black and white” we would have a simple book (no bigger than 613 chapters) stating “THESE ARE THE RULES”. Even the shulchan aruch has its own disputes within it, with commentaries on it that dispute with each other.March 1, 2010 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #675579
To ask if the girls family uses plastic on shabbos is a invalid questionAnd it was asked to someonei k owMarch 1, 2010 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #675580
I’ve determined that we were going to shidduch hell because we used a blue tablecloth (with a plastic) this past Shabbos. 🙂
The WolfMarch 1, 2010 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #675581
Yes u are, lol. (watch ur lAnguage)March 1, 2010 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #675582
I don’t find that word offensive — but if you do, I shall refrain from doing so in the future. My apologies.
The WolfMarch 1, 2010 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #675583
It’s not offensive but it’s not yashrus to use such language, thanksMarch 1, 2010 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #675584
Odd. You don’t have a problem with the term “gehenim,” do you?
It would be one thing if I was using the word as a swear word, but if I was using it as a metaphysical/spiritual place (as I was), how is it any different than using “gehenim?”
The WolfMarch 1, 2010 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #675585
It’s not yashrus, did u ever hear a choshuve rov use itMarch 1, 2010 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm #675586
I’ve never heard a rav use the term HyperText Transfer Protocol either.
Please answer the question I asked — in a situation where it’s not used as a swear word, why do you not object to “gehenim” but you do object to the English equivalent.
The WolfMarch 1, 2010 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #675587
Because I don’t think the word is yashrus, I don’t care u use it but I prefer not hereMarch 1, 2010 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #675588
I will respect your wishes, but I’m still curious as to *why* you think that way. You obviously don’t find the English language offensive, so why do you find that word offensive* but not the Hebrew equivalent.
* Again, talking in a case where it’s not being used as a swear word. When it is, I understand your objection.March 1, 2010 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #675589
Since the word can be used in a bad way in the English language it shouldn’t be used, periodMarch 1, 2010 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #675590
Ah, okay, so I suppose you object to the word that represents a wall holding back a large body of water because the homophone of it can used in a bad way as well?
The WolfMarch 1, 2010 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #675591
I don’t use thAt word Although I don’t object when others doMarch 1, 2010 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #675592
OK, so I suppose you don’t want to hear about my vacation to the Hoover Big Wall That Holds Back Water. Nor, I suppose, do you want to hear about a horse’s mother. 🙂
You really don’t use the word “dam” for the wall?
The WolfMarch 1, 2010 8:02 pm at 8:02 pm #675593hereorthereMember
jewishandworking22 you are proving my point.
When Rabbonim dissagree each person or community dfollows on particular Rav.
What that Rav tells his congregation is very black and white.
I have never in history heard of any Rav say to anyone “There is no Psak on this Halachic Sheila, so you can do or not as you please because it’s a grey area”.
When it comes down to a pask “What should I do in this situation” There is always either a pask what you shopuld do in black and white or you are told to go to another Rav who knows more about that specialty and can give a black and white pask.
It might look “grey” the the Gemarra but we do not pasken from then Gemarra specifically for that reason, the final Halacha that each person needs from his Rav is totally back and white.March 1, 2010 8:57 pm at 8:57 pm #675595volvieMember
jw22: Did you miss the part in Pirkei Avos that says Asei L’cha Rav?March 1, 2010 9:26 pm at 9:26 pm #675596gavra_at_workParticipant
Hashem Is Everywhere:
There is a very chashuv Talmud chacham who has been posted here by others as a “gadol” who uses the word all the time (refering to Reshaim). I don’t see your point.
Also, making a distiction because its not your language is silly. I can curse in many languages, does not being English make it OK?
hereorthere: What if a Rav says you shouldn’t… but its not Assur? (happens often, such as (an extreme) “Menuval B’rishus Hatorah”)March 1, 2010 11:24 pm at 11:24 pm #675598
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