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  • May 5, 2025 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #2395415
    DaMoshe
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    yankel berel: I heard it from numerous Rabbonim. It was also printed on YWN in their article about Ponovezh in 2020: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/1854765/in-long-standing-minhag-israeli-flag-flies-from-ponevezeh-in-bnei-brak-on-yom-haatzmaut.html

    R’ Ahron Soloveichik (who was a magid shiur in MTJ, then was appointed by R’ Hutner to give the highest shiur in Chaim Berlin, then at RIETS, before moving to Chicago where he was Rosh Yeshiva in Skokie before opening the Chicago branch of Brisk) also observed Tom Ha’atzmaut, and had his yeshivos say Hallel.

    May 6, 2025 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #2395633
    Always_Ask_Questions
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    If YWN lets the link
    https://www.yutorah.org/ lectures/744024/Saying-Hallel-on-Yom-Haatzmaut
    Speaker: Rabbi Ahron Soloveichik
    Date: April 14 1986

    May 6, 2025 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #2395635
    Always_Ask_Questions
    Participant

    So, I am not the only one hiding out. See this reference:
    R’ Y.D. Soloveitchik was only opposed to reciting hallel with a b’racha. I heard from a talmid of his that R’ Soloveitchik would face the wall and b’davka cover himself with a tallis so completely that nobody could figure out what he was doing

    old news: (Teshuvot Yabia Omer 6:O.C. 41

    Chacham Ovadia Shlita – Hallel Without a Bracha

    April 20, 2010
    Chacham Maran Ovadia Yosef Shlita announced that one is permitted to recite Hallel on Independence Day without a bracha. The Rav adds it is preferable to push off the recitation of Hallel until completing the davening, since one should not insert tefillos into the prescribed text.

    The Rav explains that gedolim have voiced various opinions regarding the recitation of Hallel, since Chazal did not insert it into the tefilla for this day we are not accustomed to do so but one cannot discard the miracles resulting in the establishment of the country and the ability of Jews to return to their Homeland.

    May 6, 2025 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #2395649
    yankel berel
    Participant

    @damoshe

    I heard the following from old time ponevezh talmidim:

    Ponevezher rav attempted to omit tahanun in the early days of the State . And was overruled by the rest of the hanhala who davka said tahanun. Whereafter the continuous practise in ponevezh is to say tahanun.
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    R ahron soloveitchik was not in ponovezh , and was a totally different type of person than the typical ponovezhers.
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    May 6, 2025 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #2395650
    yankel berel
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    I read the article in YVN about tahanun in ponovezh on yom ha’atsma’ut.

    This is incorrect . I heard it my self from an ed re’eya.

    Even when the P Rov was alive and prayed in the yeshiva , they did say tahanun.

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    May 7, 2025 10:45 am at 10:45 am #2396074
    Always_Ask_Questions
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    yankel > person than the typical ponovezhers.

    I believe ponovezh early on would take different types of students regardless of hashkofa. Things changed prob during 1960s

    June 4, 2025 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #2406340
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    from the ArtScroll History Series biography
    of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 13, page 321:

    “He [Rabbi Moshe Sherer] assured [Prime Minister] Rabin…
    that he could always count on Agudath Israel of America
    to be strongly supportive of Israel’s security needs.”

    PERSONAL COMMENT:
    This is the 1st quote of 4, which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
    was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
    was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!
    __________________________________________
    from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
    of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 15, page 356:

    “Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer responded at length.
    He pointed out that the opposition to religious umbrella groups
    did not preclude Jews joining together on issues as
    Israel’s security or combating anti-Semitism.”

    PERSONAL COMMENT:
    This is the 2nd quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
    was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
    was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!
    __________________________________________
    from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
    of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 545:

    “Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer’s summary of a confidential
    June 17, 1970 [CE] meeting with Israel’s
    Ambassador to Washington Yitzchak Rabin
    reflects his lifelong approach to Israel’s security needs.”

    PERSONAL COMMENT:
    This is the 3rd quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
    was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
    was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!
    __________________________________________
    from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
    of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 546:

    The offer of political support Rabbi Sherer made
    to Yitzchak Rabin was one he would repeat
    on many occasions to Israeli leaders.

    In a 1981 [CE] letter to Israeli Ambassador Ephraim Efron,
    for instance, he described Agudath Israel’s grassroots
    constituency as a “reservoir of manpower which is
    totally committed to the safety and security of Israel.”

    PERSONAL COMMENT:
    This is the 4th quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
    was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
    was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!

    June 5, 2025 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #2406725
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
    of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:

    “Such a committee of investigation would have served
    as a ploy to unseat Prime Minister Menachem Begin,
    for whom both the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah
    of America and that of Eretz Yisrael had great respect.”

    PERSONAL COMMENT:

    This short quote proves that the Gedolim had
    “great respect” for Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin,
    even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a Secular Zionist state!

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    from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
    of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547, footnote 9:

    When Rabbi Porush conveyed these sentiments to Rabbi Shach,
    the latter responded, “We must pray for the health of
    [Prime Minister Menachem] Begin.
    Please phone [Menachem] Begin immediately and
    tell him that I [Rabbi Shach] pray for him constantly.”

    PERSONAL COMMENT:

    This short quote proves that Rabbi Shach ZTL ZYA prayed for
    Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin, “constantly”,
    even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a secular Zionist state!
    __________________________________________

    June 9, 2025 10:32 am at 10:32 am #2408033
    KGN
    Participant

    I agree with the inbox. I enjoyed reading it when it was published on Matzav. There’s Synagouges that I won’t attend because they appeal to the people who do treat the Yesod of Avodath Hashem to be Anti-Tzionism. I find these people to be rotten even if they are Shomrei Mitzvoth.

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