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yankel berel: I heard it from numerous Rabbonim. It was also printed on YWN in their article about Ponovezh in 2020: https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/1854765/in-long-standing-minhag-israeli-flag-flies-from-ponevezeh-in-bnei-brak-on-yom-haatzmaut.html
R’ Ahron Soloveichik (who was a magid shiur in MTJ, then was appointed by R’ Hutner to give the highest shiur in Chaim Berlin, then at RIETS, before moving to Chicago where he was Rosh Yeshiva in Skokie before opening the Chicago branch of Brisk) also observed Tom Ha’atzmaut, and had his yeshivos say Hallel.
If YWN lets the link
https://www.yutorah.org/ lectures/744024/Saying-Hallel-on-Yom-Haatzmaut
Speaker: Rabbi Ahron Soloveichik
Date: April 14 1986So, I am not the only one hiding out. See this reference:
R’ Y.D. Soloveitchik was only opposed to reciting hallel with a b’racha. I heard from a talmid of his that R’ Soloveitchik would face the wall and b’davka cover himself with a tallis so completely that nobody could figure out what he was doingold news: (Teshuvot Yabia Omer 6:O.C. 41
April 20, 2010
Chacham Maran Ovadia Yosef Shlita announced that one is permitted to recite Hallel on Independence Day without a bracha. The Rav adds it is preferable to push off the recitation of Hallel until completing the davening, since one should not insert tefillos into the prescribed text.The Rav explains that gedolim have voiced various opinions regarding the recitation of Hallel, since Chazal did not insert it into the tefilla for this day we are not accustomed to do so but one cannot discard the miracles resulting in the establishment of the country and the ability of Jews to return to their Homeland.
I heard the following from old time ponevezh talmidim:
Ponevezher rav attempted to omit tahanun in the early days of the State . And was overruled by the rest of the hanhala who davka said tahanun. Whereafter the continuous practise in ponevezh is to say tahanun.
—R ahron soloveitchik was not in ponovezh , and was a totally different type of person than the typical ponovezhers.
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I read the article in YVN about tahanun in ponovezh on yom ha’atsma’ut.
This is incorrect . I heard it my self from an ed re’eya.
Even when the P Rov was alive and prayed in the yeshiva , they did say tahanun.
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.yankel > person than the typical ponovezhers.
I believe ponovezh early on would take different types of students regardless of hashkofa. Things changed prob during 1960s
I agree with the inbox. I enjoyed reading it when it was published on Matzav. There’s Synagouges that I won’t attend because they appeal to the people who do treat the Yesod of Avodath Hashem to be Anti-Tzionism. I find these people to be rotten even if they are Shomrei Mitzvoth.
SQUARE_ROOT:
Fanatical Zionists are de facto allies of all the enemies of the Jews throughout history who tried to take us away from G-d and Judaism.The following should really be posted –
Will you, moderator, please remove SQUARE from this forum.
Do we really need to hear his vile motsi shem ra rants about haredim here?
No we don’t.
.Nu
when is Square Root going to delete his motsi shem ra ???
.Chacham Ovadia Zatza”l wrote that he (mistakenly, of course) accepted as truth Rabbi Kasher’s forgery of his infamous KK about “reishis tzemichas” A”L. The founding of the “State” was a conventional military victory (even more so in 1967), and totally against the Torah (both from Pikuach nefesh and a Torah life perspective as well as regarding the Oaths). Saying Hallel on such a day is obviously a slap in the face to G-d. Obviously, as the Chazon Ish wrote, the Zionist “independence” day should really be, if anything, a 9 Av, not a holiday.
katan :
Obviously, as the Chazon Ish wrote, the Zionist “independence” day should really be, if anything, a 9 Av, not a holiday.—
don’t believe chazon ish himself ever wrote that …
.Have not heard from square root yet —-
Nu
when is Square Root going to delete his motsi shem ra ???
.> The founding of the “State” was a conventional military victory
So you are suggesting that Z policies that prepared this conventional victory were logical and lead to the victory. And those who were not supporting them were working against the victory against the enemies (in other words, for the victory of sonei Isroel). In other words, all the arguments that Zs were the cause of Arab attacks need to be balanced with your opinion that they also caused those attacks to stop.
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