Antivirus

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  • #591642
    kapusta
    Participant

    Can anyone recommend an antivirus thats easy to use and doesnt cost too much?

    Thanks.

    #685110
    d a
    Member

    kapusta, are you having a problem or want to protect yourself?

    By the way, you forgot your signature!

    #685111
    kapusta
    Participant

    I have a feeling theres a virus on my computer. In general it still works, but a couple of times my window decided to close etc. I have spy sweeper but it hasnt really been effective (I had a virus in the past and gave it to someone to fix. Supposedly they had better luck with the spy sweeper than I seem to have.) So basically, I need something that will get rid of anything now and will help me in the future, should the need (c’v) arise.

    d a, sorry abt the signature part! Glad to see someone remembers me! (this better?)

    *kapusta*

    #685112

    A computer which accesses the internet needs three security components:

    1) Antivirus

    2) Anti-spyware

    3) A firewall

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/vista-windows-explorer-freezing-up

    To see a comparison of free antivurus apps, I recommend a look at this page:

    http://download.cnet.com/2797-2023_4-371.html?tag=mncol;txt

    A computer that suddenly shuts down can be caused by many issues, including hardware.

    #685113
    volvie
    Member

    icot: Why your preferenace for AVG over avast (also free)? Can you comment on avast? And how they compare to the commercial anti-virus programs (Norton, McAfee).

    Is there any benefit using a commercial program for the anti-spyware or firewall (compared to the free programs)?

    Thanks

    #685114

    volvie-

    Why your preference for AVG over avast (also free)?

    It isn’t a preference; it’s a recommendation based on personal use. AVG is one I use, so I can recommend it first-hand. Avast is also highly rated (it has slightly higher user ratings on the CNET page I referenced), but I’ve never used it.

    Can you comment on avast?

    Not based on my own experience, but it’s highly rated by both pros and users.

    And how they compare to the commercial anti-virus programs (Norton, McAfee).

    For virus-checking, I think they’re comparable.

    Is there any benefit using a commercial program for the anti-spyware or firewall (compared to the free programs)?

    -Symantec (Norton), McAfee, and ZoneLabs commercial programs include antivirus, anti-spyware and firewall all in one.

    -In my experience, they also have a higher level of customer support than the free programs do.

    For the above two reasons, they may be simpler to use, and a better choice for someone who isn’t interested in potchking with multiple programs, or doesn’t know much about PCs. Also, some vendors will throw in a subscription to one of the above packages when you buy a new computer.

    As far as protecting your computer, I think you can do just fine with the free programs.

    #685115
    volvie
    Member

    icot: I recall Norton at one time had a reputation of being bloatware — where it would load countless things into memory upon boot-up that would slow down the computer. Do you know if that is still the case, and how the other programs rate on this issue?

    #685116
    kapusta
    Participant

    ICOT, I must say, you never fail me in the computer dept. Thanks so much for the info, I’ll try it bl”n tomorrow.

    Question: would the programs mentioned above get rid of anything that may be present on the system?

    *kapusta*

    #685117
    kapusta
    Participant

    ICOT: As of now, I’m downloading the first two (AVG and ad-aware), I read through the other thread that you linked, my question, do these downloads have any effect on my wireless internet or vice versa? Thanks a lot.

    *kapusta*

    #685118
    dov717
    Participant

    In my experience the best prog for removing malware already on your system is malwarebytes.

    #685121

    Avira AntiVir Personal Edition, from http://www.free-av.com, is excellent and free as well. I’ve been using it for 5 years on 7 different computers with great success – I’ve also used it to clean several ‘chareidi’ computers (lke, Windows XP with no security software, no updates because no internet, and tens of USB flash drives and MP3 players being plugged in all the time) – it found and cleaned 260 viruses on one PC.

    Windows Firewall + Avira AntiVir Personal Edition = no problems, ever.

    #685122

    volvie

    I haven’t used Norton for a few years. About 3 – 4 years ago many reviewers complained that it bogged down their machines, but over the last couple of years reviewers say that it’s been streamlined and pretty much fixed. Personally, I’ve had issues with the installations of ZoneAlarm and Norton, while McAfee had its recent well-publicized issue of mistaking a key Windows component for a virus and deleting it. Bottom line – there’s no perfect antivirus, but all that we’ve mentioned are good.

    One additional advantage I forgot to mention that a commercial program may have is that they may have updates for the latest high-profile virus more quickly, due to their number of employees and their interest in retaining their customers.

    kapusta

    If your system is already infected it gets tricky.

    You may be able to run antivirus programs, but they might not work properly.

    Sometimes booting into safe mode can help.

    Sometimes you can boot from another device and run antivirus from there.

    Worst case scenario, sometimes the infected drive can be connected to an uninfected computer as a second hard drive and disinfected from there. Be VERY careful if using this method that you don’t infect the clean computer.

    Please see my reply to “dov717”, below.

    None of the programs discussed here should disrupt or noticeably slow your internet connection, although you may want to tweak some AVG settings if you find it overly intrusive.

    dov717

    Malwarebytes is something I used once, on a computer infected with the fake antivirus program “Antivirus XP 2010”.

    “Antivirus XP 2010” is a sneaky program that disguises itself as an antivirus program, pops up all kinds of dire warnings, such as “your information is being stolen right now!”, steals the windows security center’s colors and logo, and won’t let many programs, including legit antivirus, run. It claims that it will “fix” the “viruses” it found if you send them money, but all that happens is that they take your money.

    I had to download two files on a clean computer; the first was a registry-altering file (just to allow the malwarebytes program to run) and the second was malwarebytes. The files were then burned to a CD, and brought to the infected PC. After malwarebytes ran for about an hour, all the while “Antivirus XP 2010” kicking up its fake warnings, I was prompted to restart the computer. It was completely disinfected, which was very nice to see.

    #685123
    smartcookie
    Member

    I also use AVG. Very good.

    ICOT-did you get computer training or are you just plain great at this?

    #685124

    smartcookie-

    Thank you for the kind words (again).

    The motivations are:

    a) Saving money.

    b) Making sure I get the right part / program / device.

    c) Saving time.

    #685125
    kapusta
    Participant

    ICOT: thanks for all your help. I have not yet turned on that computer since downloading the programs. How can I access the program now that its downloaded?

    If necessary, how do I start the computer in safe mode?

    If your system is already infected it gets tricky.

    once its downloaded and working, if a system with the above-mentioned programs gets infected, would it be a problem to remove?

    Thanks again.

    *kapusta*

    #685126

    Daniel Breslauer

    The more people who contribute their knowledge, the better it is.

    kapusta

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306084

    Usually restore points are available for approximately the last month-and-a-half.

    How can I access the program now that its downloaded?

    IE prompts you for a location of the downloaded file.

    If you forgot where the file is, you can search for it using Start–>Search (if you know the file name).

    With Firefox, you can select Tools–>Downloads from the menu.

    If necessary, how do I start the computer in safe mode?

    Hold down the F8 key as your computer is starting. You will be prompted to choose if you want to start in safe mode.

    http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question575.htm

    I recommend giving it a quick look to get a bit of an understanding of some basic terms.

    once its downloaded and working, if a system with the above-mentioned programs gets infected, would it be a problem to remove?

    #685127
    kapusta
    Participant

    ICOT: Am I correct in thinking that what the above-mentioned programs will do is block the virus altogether?

    Is there anything you can recommend as a way to get rid of anything that might be on the computer already?

    could you put that in siiiiiiimple english please?

    Thank you so much for all your help, it is very much appreciated.

    *kapusta*

    #685128
    oomis
    Participant

    Just watch out for that deadly one that comes out in the early springtime, known as the Achash-virus.

    #685129

    kapusta

    Am I correct in thinking that what the above-mentioned programs will do is block the virus altogether?

    Is there anything you can recommend as a way to get rid of anything that might be on the computer already?

    If you already know that you have a virus and know which one it is you should Google it to see how to best remove it.

    could you put that in siiiiiiimple english please?

    Has the problem of your PC suddenly shutting down in the middle of nowhere just started, or has it been going on for a while? Has it gotten worse over time?

    oomis1105

    Despite the punctiliousness of the programmers, antivirus software is as of yet unable to expunge the comments of those who have no compunction about homespun posts like these. They keypunch with impunity. Punishment is too puny a threat to stop these spunky posters; maybe acupuncture would help?

    #685130
    kapusta
    Participant

    ICOT:

    1. Basically, when I turn on my computer, something that looks like a legit program called “my security engine” comes up. It never has before. When I go online, every few minutes, the window will close (never has before) and I restart it, (happens a few times) until an error box comes up (basically says theres a virus program, dont remember the exact wording, that has failed. It looks the same as a notice from firefox, or IE, that something failed and gives me an option to alert microsoft.) Once this came on, the window stayed open.

    2. While online, I will hear random things which sounds like an ad or video, no windows were open for it to have come from.

    Your patience is very much appreciated. (I’m sure it must be entertaining for you to be explaining and re-explaining and re-explaining yet again the same things to someone like me whos so well-versed in computers)

    oomis1105

    Member

    Just watch out for that deadly one that comes out in the early springtime, known as the Achash-virus.

    congrats. You just won the oomis pun achievement award for the month.

    *kapusta*

    3. I get random pop-ups with different ads. Always the same few ads at different times.

    Whats your take?

    If I were to start the computer in safe-mode, what would I look for to get rid of the virus? (assuming there is one)

    The computer is less than a year old.

    #685131

    kapusta-

    A Google search for “my security engine” reveals that your computer is infected with a rouge program called “my security engine” (natch).

    Go to this page and follow the instructions:

    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-my-security-engine

    This is the site I got the “Antivirus XP 2010” disinfection instructions from.

    If you have follow-up questions please post them here.

    Good luck.

    #685132
    kapusta
    Participant

    update: The “my security engine” seems to have disappeared. Right now, the ads are happening more often and its getting very annoying. Any ideas on what to try?

    Thanks and have a wonderful Shabbos!

    *kapusta*

    #685133

    kapusta-

    Have you followed the instructions detailed in the site listed above?

    If not, I strongly suggest that you do.

    If you have already done so, and your computer is still loaded with rogue software that antivirus programs can’t remove, you have the following options:

    1) Back up your data and use the restore disk that your PC hopefully came with to reset your computer to its “just purchased” state. If you don’t have such a disk, contact the manufacturer.

    2) Google every symptom as it pops up on your PC and try to address it.

    3) Get a pro (or a knowledgeable and patient amateur) to disinfect your PC.

    #685134
    kapusta
    Participant

    ICOT: I never ended up doing it. I turned on my computer, but the “box” never appeared. The only reason I have some faith in this is because something like this has happened at least once before. The only remnant of “my security engine” are pop-ups (the pop-ups are all in IE, my regular browser if firefox) and several times (only audio) ads come on. There is no way to shut them other than altering the volume.

    I appreciate your help, thank you! Have a wonderful Shabbos!

    *kapusta*

    #685135

    kapusta-

    Whether or not you see them, there is no question in my mind that your computer is infected with adware, spyware and possibly viruses. Until you have it cleaned assume that anything you do on it can be seen by crooks and people looking to steal your information. This includes which sites you visit and the IDs and passwords you use. Furthermore, you may be inadvertently sending malware to others via email or files created on your PC.

    I wish I could be more encouraging, but them’s the facts.

    #685136
    kapusta
    Participant

    ICOT: I’m sorry for going in circles here. I downloaded the ad-aware, ran it, and it didnt pick up anything. The AVG seemed to have an issue with connecting to the internet (this happened more than once and it was downloaded more than once.)

    Is there any way to avoid going through the steps to actually remove the virus? In case theres more than one thing, wouldnt it be easier to just get something that would get rid of everything in one shot?

    Is there anything that will get rid of anything on the system?

    Thanks so much. I apologize for being such a tough customer.

    Have a good Shabbos!

    *kapusta*

    #685137

    kapusta-

    Have you followed the instructions for virus/spyware removal using Malwarebytes detailed in the URL above? That’s the first thing I’d try before anything else.

    The AVG seemed to have an issue with connecting to the internet…

    Malware will often prevent antivirus programs from running or updating their virus definitions. That’s part of the reason it’s important to follow tried-and-true virus removal methods.

    …wouldn’t it be easier to just get something that would get rid of everything in one shot?

    It sure would. Unfortunately, such software doesn’t exist.

    Is there anything that will get rid of anything on the system?

    No, I’m afraid not.

    I apologize for being such a tough customer.

    No problem – I’m passing along the favor others have done for me in sharing knowledge.

    Pass it along!

    Gut Shabbos.

    #685138
    noitallmr
    Participant

    People- just forget all these anti virus programs and stick with Microsoft Security Essentials- nothing can beat an antivirus software made by the king of software. And it’s free.

    If the mods allow this- http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

    #685139
    bombmaniac
    Participant

    no no no…for constant active and passive scanning use avast.

    for weekly scans have malwarebytes installed

    #685140
    noitallmr
    Participant

    bombmaniac- Um Microsoft Security Essentials IS constantly scanning isnt it???

    #685141
    bombmaniac
    Participant

    it is, i wouldnt recommend it though. its good, but not effective enough

    #685142
    kapusta
    Participant

    ICOT: I have not yet done the steps in the link you provided for lack of time. Question: will using the system the way it is now affect it at all (or will the virus “change/get stronger”)?

    Question 2: just out of curiosity, if you looked at the steps, do you know how long it would take (for someone not very computer literate) to go through the steps?

    Thanks.

    *kapusta*

    #685143

    kapusta-

    a) You should back up your important data (pictures, videos, documents, etc.) Blank CDs and DVDs are cheap.

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