July 24, 2011 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #598180
Does anyone know of a Psak re the use of LDS (Salt Lake City) resources to research genealogy? No guesswork please, Referrences only! Thanks!!July 24, 2011 4:49 pm at 4:49 pm #788919Jersey JewParticipant
How about going to YOUR rov and asking YOUR OWN shayla???? Sounds normal to me.July 24, 2011 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #788920Jersey JewParticipant
Why would you want to use or patronize AVODA ZORA anyway?July 24, 2011 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #788921WIYMember
Im baffled that people prefer to ask anonymous people as opposed to asking a Rav their Shailos. We are not Rabbonim and we have no right to Pasken any Shailos for you, yes we can tell you something that we have a source for in the Mishna Berura…but any real shaila must be asked to a LOR. For those who don’t have one it is highly recommended to get one asap!July 24, 2011 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #788922
My Rav would not know what I am referring to, He would have to start from square one finding out what…
If I can give him something to start with he would be able to give me his opinion.
“patronize” you know or are you GUESSING?July 24, 2011 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #788923
WIY I am just as baffled by your reaction.Didn’t I write “No guesswork please, References only!”,
Also please see my last reply.
Many years ago at a public forum I heard someone ask Rav Belsky Shlita this Q but don’t remember his answer. If I could give my Rav a copy of a Teshuva by a competent Posek than he has something to work with. I am not comfortable accessing their site for technical details without a Psak from someone familiar with themJuly 24, 2011 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #788924am yisrael chaiParticipant
The Gribover Rebbe, R Halberstam (off 16th ave in Boro Park)does extensive work on genealogyJuly 24, 2011 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #788925ItcheSrulikMember
As always, ask a rav who is familiar with both you and the issue you’re asking about.July 24, 2011 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #788926optimusprimeMember
As does Rav Efraim Miskeitner of Bnei Brak. He has written extensively on the human genome and halachic implications involved (specifically gender selection)July 24, 2011 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #788927
My interests are not in Rav Halberstam’s realm
I am not trying to find out how many times my wife’s great great grandmother was descended from Rashi.
Who was talking about gnomes and DNA? I am trying to find descendants of Rachel Kurtz born 2 2 1861 in Rajka Hungary.
Simply facts that can be found in old records in Eastern Europe which that particular group for their own reasons have huge collections.July 24, 2011 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #788929popa_bar_abbaParticipant
The guy I ask my avoda zara shailos to said I couldn’t tour Salt Palace or even go to look at it. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/im-in-salt-lake-city
But he did let me see the Mayan temples in Belize, since they themselves don’t practice it anymore.July 24, 2011 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #788930wanderingchanaParticipant
I’ve used ancestry dot com. I wonder if that might be run by LDS… but they have access to an incredible amount of info going back hundreds of years. U.S. birth, death, marriage records, city directories, census records, Social Security, military… and they are increasing their overseas records more and more.July 24, 2011 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #788931am yisrael chaiParticipant
try posting on genforum.genealogy.com/kurtz/all.html. You may also want to spell that name with an “e” or “i” & see if you get anywhereJuly 24, 2011 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #788932PeacemakerMember
LDS recorded many many of the Jewish census records in Europe going back hundreds of years unto microfiche.July 24, 2011 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #788933Tzvi HirshMember
The LDS Genealogy center was created in order to baptize people posthumously. They do this to all people of any religion all over the world. The major Jewish organizations objected to them about this and they said they would stop. However they continued to do this as far as I know.
Years ago Rav Chaim Pincus Scheinberg said it was forbidden to have anything to do with them. Currently I don’t know if he still holds this view as things might have changed.
This organization spends hundred od millions of dollars to translate and glean information from birth, death and marriage records all over the world. The only reason that they continue to do this is for their religious reasons.
I am a Genealogist and know that these records would be helpful in my research but don’t use them because I have not found any Rav who would approve of this.
Today with the internet there are so many ways to get this information that they can be avoided completelyJuly 24, 2011 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #788934PeacemakerMember
Are the LDS records available via the internet?July 24, 2011 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #788935
R Zvi thanks!! that is all needed to know. If R Chaim said no than I dont need to ask.
I am a Genealogistyou opened yourself up to my next question/request. Can you help me
try to find descendants of Rachel Kurtz born 2 2 1861 in Rajka Hungary?
Peacemaker ask your Hungarian literate friends to translate thisJuly 24, 2011 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #788936charliehallParticipant
Salt Palace is just a convention center, not a church. What is wrong with it?July 24, 2011 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #788937popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Salt Palace is just a convention center, not a church. What is wrong with it?
Looks like I meant Salt Lake Temple.
I thought that was Salt Palace, but I suppose I thought wrong. Oh well, won’t be the last time. (although, it is the first time.)
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