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  • #598180
    me too
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    Does anyone know of a Psak re the use of LDS (Salt Lake City) resources to research genealogy? No guesswork please, Referrences only! Thanks!!

    #788919
    Jersey Jew
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    How about going to YOUR rov and asking YOUR OWN shayla???? Sounds normal to me.

    #788920
    Jersey Jew
    Participant

    Why would you want to use or patronize AVODA ZORA anyway?

    #788921
    WIY
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    Im baffled that people prefer to ask anonymous people as opposed to asking a Rav their Shailos. We are not Rabbonim and we have no right to Pasken any Shailos for you, yes we can tell you something that we have a source for in the Mishna Berura…but any real shaila must be asked to a LOR. For those who don’t have one it is highly recommended to get one asap!

    #788922
    me too
    Member

    My Rav would not know what I am referring to, He would have to start from square one finding out what…

    If I can give him something to start with he would be able to give me his opinion.

    “patronize” you know or are you GUESSING?

    #788923
    me too
    Member

    WIY I am just as baffled by your reaction.Didn’t I write “No guesswork please, References only!”,

    Also please see my last reply.

    Many years ago at a public forum I heard someone ask Rav Belsky Shlita this Q but don’t remember his answer. If I could give my Rav a copy of a Teshuva by a competent Posek than he has something to work with. I am not comfortable accessing their site for technical details without a Psak from someone familiar with them

    #788924
    am yisrael chai
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    The Gribover Rebbe, R Halberstam (off 16th ave in Boro Park)does extensive work on genealogy

    #788925
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    As always, ask a rav who is familiar with both you and the issue you’re asking about.

    #788926
    optimusprime
    Member

    As does Rav Efraim Miskeitner of Bnei Brak. He has written extensively on the human genome and halachic implications involved (specifically gender selection)

    #788927
    me too
    Member

    My interests are not in Rav Halberstam’s realm

    I am not trying to find out how many times my wife’s great great grandmother was descended from Rashi.

    Who was talking about gnomes and DNA? I am trying to find descendants of Rachel Kurtz born 2 2 1861 in Rajka Hungary.

    Simply facts that can be found in old records in Eastern Europe which that particular group for their own reasons have huge collections.

    #788929
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    The guy I ask my avoda zara shailos to said I couldn’t tour Salt Palace or even go to look at it. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/im-in-salt-lake-city

    But he did let me see the Mayan temples in Belize, since they themselves don’t practice it anymore.

    #788930
    wanderingchana
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    I’ve used ancestry dot com. I wonder if that might be run by LDS… but they have access to an incredible amount of info going back hundreds of years. U.S. birth, death, marriage records, city directories, census records, Social Security, military… and they are increasing their overseas records more and more.

    #788931
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    try posting on genforum.genealogy.com/kurtz/all.html. You may also want to spell that name with an “e” or “i” & see if you get anywhere

    #788932
    Peacemaker
    Member

    LDS recorded many many of the Jewish census records in Europe going back hundreds of years unto microfiche.

    #788933
    Tzvi Hirsh
    Member

    The LDS Genealogy center was created in order to baptize people posthumously. They do this to all people of any religion all over the world. The major Jewish organizations objected to them about this and they said they would stop. However they continued to do this as far as I know.

    Years ago Rav Chaim Pincus Scheinberg said it was forbidden to have anything to do with them. Currently I don’t know if he still holds this view as things might have changed.

    This organization spends hundred od millions of dollars to translate and glean information from birth, death and marriage records all over the world. The only reason that they continue to do this is for their religious reasons.

    I am a Genealogist and know that these records would be helpful in my research but don’t use them because I have not found any Rav who would approve of this.

    Today with the internet there are so many ways to get this information that they can be avoided completely

    #788934
    Peacemaker
    Member

    Are the LDS records available via the internet?

    #788935
    me too
    Member

    R Zvi thanks!! that is all needed to know. If R Chaim said no than I dont need to ask.

    Having said I am a Genealogist you opened yourself up to my next question/request. Can you help me try to find descendants of Rachel Kurtz born 2 2 1861 in Rajka Hungary?

    Peacemaker ask your Hungarian literate friends to translate this

    #788936
    charliehall
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    popa,

    Salt Palace is just a convention center, not a church. What is wrong with it?

    #788937
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Salt Palace is just a convention center, not a church. What is wrong with it?

    Looks like I meant Salt Lake Temple.

    I thought that was Salt Palace, but I suppose I thought wrong. Oh well, won’t be the last time. (although, it is the first time.)

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