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  • #617042
    Daniell11
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    Let’s stop avoiding the question. Are children under bar/bat mitzvah really Jewish. They do not keep any torah. Let’s face it they seem not to be Jewish.

    #1122999
    Geordie613
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    Plenty people don’t keep the Torah and are Jewish. Some even don’t believe in Hashem r”l. Some people even put trolling questions on chat forums, but are nevertheless Jewish.

    #1123000
    👑RebYidd23
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    And some people don’t even remember where the trolling think was trollen from and are still Jewish.

    #1123001
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    What about girls under bas mitzvah – are they doubly not Jewish?

    #1123002
    👑RebYidd23
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    Boys under bar mitzvah are just the seeds that blossom into cars. Girls turn into car manufacturers.

    #1123003
    popa_bar_abba
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    If children are not jewish, then how are their children jewish?

    Ford factories don’t employ children, so you can’t bring a proof from that.

    #1123004
    👑RebYidd23
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    Ford employees used to be children.

    #1123005
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    #1123006
    Hashemisreading
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    Is a baby bot that didnt have a bris yet Jewish?

    #1123007
    👑RebYidd23
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    Bots are not Jewish. They do not have mothers.

    #1123008
    popa_bar_abba
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    Ford employees used to be children.

    Ford employees used to be children.

    Everybody used to be children. Except children. So according to your logic, everybody is children except children.

    #1123009
    👑RebYidd23
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    I made a statement. I did not apply any logic.

    #1123010
    popa_bar_abba
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    Bots are not Jewish. They do not have mothers.

    Cars also don’t have mothers, and according to your earlier statement they’re jewish.

    #1123011
    Hashemisreading
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    RebYidd: Boy. Boy. BOY. boy. Apologies.

    #1123012
    👑RebYidd23
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    Cars mothers are the car manufacturers. Bots are different because bots are not manufactured.

    #1123013
    Hashemisreading
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    Bots aren’t manufactured because boys are born.

    #1123014
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Sorry rebyidd,

    They are

    Google it

    #1123015
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    You’re probably referring to a different kind of bot.

    #1123016
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    So it’s probably the same bot as hashemisreading

    #1123017
    helloyidden
    Member

    mitzvah of chinch

    #1123018
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Preparation of watering a seed.

    The potential to become something does not make it already so.

    #1123019
    TheGoq
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    are they jewish after they have their bot mitzvah?

    #1123020
    Daniell11
    Member

    The goq, then they are adults so are able to keep torah and receive mitzvot.

    #1123021
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Bots are not adults.

    #1123022
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Bots are not adults.

    Why are you so hung up on age?

    #1123023
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Would you prefer if I were not so hung up on age?

    #1123024
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Would you prefer if I were not so hung up on age?

    This isn’t about my preference. It’s about who is Jewish, which is very important.

    #1123025
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    #1123026
    👑RebYidd23
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    Have you asked anyone else?

    #1123027
    B1g B0y
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    The GRANAT brings down in hilchos geiros that there are 2 parts of being Jewish: mishpachas Yisroel and das (religion) Yisroel so even if children don’t do mitzvos and are therefore not part of das Yisroel they are undoubtedly part of mishpachas Yisroel.

    #1123028
    apushatayid
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    they dont have beards…….

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