October 31, 2013 4:23 am at 4:23 am #611126
So basically, since I knew I needed to get a bunch of medical tests this semester, I only enrolled in one class. But my parents say that even though I do have learning issues, that spending 20 hours studying for a quiz on 150 pages of material (I got a c on it) is to much… I know I am smart, but at what point is there supposed to be a code red for spending that much time studying which my siblings in high school maybe spent fifteen hours a week on homework for all their classes yet for one class I have to put in 20 hours a week… 40 for midterm…October 31, 2013 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #985102streekgeekParticipant
When you have to ask, it’s too much. Please, learn to live!!!October 31, 2013 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #985103Veltz MeshugenerMember
Too much for what? If you studied 20 hrs and got a C, by what measure can it possibly be too much, especially if you consider yourself smart? Oy, I fell for it. Oh, well.October 31, 2013 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #985104
Right I hear both sides but I know I need a life as well. Its a lot of work but sometimes… I don’t know, I just wish I had a cleaning lady. I mean in college you need a c or above to pass.October 31, 2013 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #985105PBTMember
It all depends on the person doing the studying. Ask your Rosh Yeshiva or your Rov, someone who’s a Torah authority who knows you and can help you make an objective decision.October 31, 2013 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #985106qazxcMember
Until you’ve learned that questions end in question marks and excessive anything is spelled TOO much and not TO much, you haven’t studied enough.October 31, 2013 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #985107WIYMember
If you are smart and studied 20 hours and got a c something is seriously wrong with how you study.October 31, 2013 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #985108jewishfeminist02Member
Maybe you should reconsider your class selection for next semester?October 31, 2013 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #985109
When a person has learning issues, studying for 100 won’t help if the test is administered without the necessary accommodations or modifications. If you have documented LD, you can get accommodations from your college to make sure you are getting the support you need.
My advice – Study til you feel like your brain is full and then go eat ice cream. That should work.October 31, 2013 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm #985110
Qazxc – you know I thought the same thing when I saw the thread. Then I read that she has learning issues and opted for mentchlich.November 1, 2013 3:53 am at 3:53 am #985111
I think that most people are confused by that as well. My current school has tutorials for English , but I am not enrolled in that class so I don’t get to go to tutorisls. Plus I am switching schools in January and I won’t have winter break this year. Maybe they will have more recources… plus I do get the same accommodations I had in high school but they don’t always make a difference in my performance.
And no, I am not getting a reevaluation. If I did, I would never qualify for accommodations again. And based on a previous experience where for an entire year virtually all my accommodations were taken away, actually make that two, I am not interested in the emotional stress associated with it.November 1, 2013 4:35 am at 4:35 am #985112SaysMeMember
20 hours sounds like a lot for a quiz to me. A test ok, a final can take many hrs- key is to break it up. im not sure if you do already, but you should try reviewing every day that days material, and every week a less in depth review. You shouldnt have to read through 150 pgs for a quiz. When you go through it, hilight key words and key concepts, or write them out. Your school might offer a session on study methods. If they do, it sounds like you might benefit from learning other new approaches, if your current one isnt working out for you. NOT cuz of the C! Cuz of the 20 hrs for a quiz. Hope you get into the flow of it n it gets easier soon. Hatlacha!November 1, 2013 4:49 am at 4:49 am #985113
JF, the class I am taking is a general ed requirement for any major.November 1, 2013 5:17 am at 5:17 am #985114
Quizzea on 150 pagea and midterms on twice that amount indicate that a lot of studying is nessary. If you think about it, college professors have the ability to ask any questions they want on the quiz. Luckily I spoke to my teacher and was proactive and got more direction but I feel that the chapter I spent eleven hours studying was much more familiar when I did the recommended chazarah, because since I am currently struggling with my ability to use my best learning faculty and it (which is the medical problem) was and has always been the best tool for me to utilize when studying is recuperating from some random neurological weakness, I basically have no choice but to study so much I have had to overcompensate by dramatically improving my tactile ability in order to study…November 1, 2013 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #985115Smile E. FaceMember
On a total side point, could you ask to be in tutorials anyways? By us, you get placed there based on your writing assessment test, so if you’re going to need them, you could probably join, regardless of whether or not you are currently in an English class.Or if your college has a writing center, the people there will be happy to help!
That being said, hatzlacha rabba! There are those professors who hand out 3 chapters worth of material and expect you to know it by the end of the week. It’s tough for anyone, so I definitely hear you that it takes a loooong time. You might want to speak to other girls in your class/girls who took this teacher before so that perhaps they can help you narrow down what it is that you really need to know. We have a teacher notorious for HUGE packets and LOADS of material, but after going through it, you realize that he doesn’t require you to know all of it, or all the details. (Though half the time nobody really knows what any teacher wants… )
B’hatzlacha!!! Hope it gets easier!
😀November 2, 2013 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #985116writersoulParticipant
If you know any people taking the class with you, maybe try studying with them or getting their notes. I’ve both studied with people who needed help and taken people’s notes when I needed help, and from both sides I know that it can sometimes be embarrassing to ask but that people are usually very willing to give.
I’m still in high school so luckily I don’t have 150-page quizzes (YET- there are some teachers I wouldn’t put it past), but I know that what can help is, as someone mentioned, highlighting key terms. When I do that I then make a list of these terms and make sure I know them cold. Then I read through everything again and I tend to understand things a lot better and make connections between ideas a lot more easily. If you’ve gotten your quizzes back, you may want to familiarize yourself with the content and format of the quizzes to make sure that the way you’re studying is effective and to figure out what type of knowledge is most often needed (I’ve found that by me, for multiple choice tests terms tend to be the parts most often tested, for example, which is helpful because you can then just get familiar with everything so that you can recognize it and not have to straightforwardly memorize detail, and that for fill-in quizzes the questions tend to focus on bigger topics, which means that I generally skim over the tiny details. Of course, this is not universally applicable- these are just examples of ways that knowing the format of quizzes can help you study effectively). Also, if this is such a standard class, there are probably sites like SparkNotes with good notes and explanations of ideas. The only time I’d say that SparkNotes is a bad idea is if you read it INSTEAD OF reading the book assigned in lit. In addition, okay, but you do miss out on details and the general learning experience if you only read the SparkNotes. In other classes, though, they can be very helpful- I’ve filled in gaps in my knowledge with their notes in math, poli sci, bio, psych, history, etc.
I hope I’m helping! Bear in mind that learning disabilities are not one of my nisyonos- my methods may not be suited to those who do have them. Perhaps a special education teacher or even just a web site or support group can suggest ways that people have used to study well and effectively.
Hatzlacha!November 3, 2013 12:59 am at 12:59 am #985117qazxcMember
Syag Lechochma – es chatoai ani mazkir hayom – I stopped reading after the subject line, which at the time still appeared with the mistakes about which I commented.November 3, 2013 1:10 am at 1:10 am #985118
Tizke l’mitzvosNovember 4, 2013 12:18 am at 12:18 am #985119nem621Member
i think that instead of studying the material so much you should try to improve your test taking skills they can make a huge difference through your whole academic careerNovember 5, 2013 4:21 am at 4:21 am #985120
Thanks.November 5, 2013 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm #985121Shopping613 🌠Participant
Be thankful your test is in english….thats all I can say
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