Baruch Hashem: Obligatory?

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  • #2020538
    Yabia Omer
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    Is it assur to answer “how are you?” with simply “I’m good thanks”? instead of BH?

    #2020544
    Novelty
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    The question is not if it is assur, the question is: Why should you want to avoid saying Baruch Hashem?
    Hashem gave you everything and we are required to bless him for the good and the bad.
    Why wouldn’t you bless him whenever you can?

    #2020546
    Yserbius123
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    D’Oraysoh. Yehareig v’Al Ya’avor

    #2020552
    Maivin
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    “Most people that say BH don’t really mean it” I have been told numerous times.
    I think that for sure they mean it.
    And no it’s not obligatory, you say it if you want to thank Hashem that you are good (which I would want to do).

    Was gonna start a thread like this! you beat me so GO @YABIAOMER!!

    #2020564
    AviraDeArah
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    It’s not a din, but we all know the saying “rak yomar b”h kol yom”

    #2020566
    Yabia Omer
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    Mavinin: Baruch shekivanta

    #2020574
    AviraDeArah
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    Yom yom**

    #2020632
    ubiquitin
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    Its the sign of being a frum Jews w anyone who doesn’t say it at least 326 times daily (Gematria of frum) isn’t really frum.

    and of course being offended by the phrase baruch Hashem. That is the mark of a big big tazadik

    #2020652
    Reb Eliezer
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    I heard from my rebbi, Rav Simcha Bunim Ehrenfeld, Matersdorfer Rav ztz’l explaining the meaning of nosiach bechukecha, speak within Your rules using the expressions like baruch Hashem.

    #2020649
    Little Froggie
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    עם זו יצרתי לי תהלתי יספרו

    Of all the names Hebrews could have been called, Yehudim is chosen, אודה את ה. Having a career of thanking HaShem, always mentioning His Name, constantly thinking about Him is not bad. It’s what we were chosen for. שם שמים שגור בפיו, even if at first it’s just for the show, y’know, to lay it on… will be מעורר את הפנימיות.

    #2020647
    Shimon Nodel
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    How often do you refer to Hashem as “Hakadosh Baruch Hu?”
    Also Ribono shel olam

    #2020670
    aposhiteyid
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    Do you know the story of the Baal shem tov and the man who refused to say Boruch Hashem? From this story it seems obligatory

    #2020674
    AviraDeArah
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    Maybe for that person it was a very crucial thing; chasidish maasos have to be understood and explained…we definitely don’t derive paak halacha from them

    #2020679
    Reb Eliezer
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    What about the Sefer Chasidim in the beginning who says to say Hashem Yisborach as it says zecher tzadik livrocho and the Rosh who instituted to say baruch hu uvaruch shma?

    #2020689
    Reb Eliezer
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    That above is siman 3, where my father as taught to me, never said Hashem but Hashem Yisborach.

    #2020693
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Rosh was a talmid from the Maharam from Rothenburg who was a talmid of Rav Yitzchak Ohr Zarua of Vienna. He was called Ohr Zarua because of a dream. He saw in a dream that Rebbi Akiva should be spelled with a ‘hey’ at the the end and not an aleph as the last letters of the pasuk אור זרוע וכו’ – ר’ עקיבה indicate. His rebbi was the Sefer Chasidim above, Rebbi Yehudah Hachassid.

    #2020695
    aposhiteyid
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    @AviraDeArah
    The message from the story was to show how much pleasure hashem gets from it.
    See this: (Mod please let) No outside links means no outside links. Not sure why that confuses people.
    https://www. chabad .org/library/article_cdo/aid/130303/jewish/G-ds-Nourishment.htm

    #2020704
    Reb Eliezer
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    It says כל הנשמה תהלל י-ה, על כל נשמה ונשמה תהלל י-ה, we should praise Hashem for every breath take.

    #2020707
    Yabia Omer
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    What do you mean the Rosh instituted Baruch Hu uvaruch shemo?

    #2020709
    Reb Eliezer
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    Yabia, there is no gemora to say it but in SA O;CH 124,5 as noted by the Beer Hagolah 6, Tur in the name of his father, the Rosh. This is the reason when it is forbidden to be mafsik, we don’t say it.

    #2020711
    Reb Eliezer
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    By the 100 shofar kolos as it is part of tefila which the RMA says is not a hefsak, I say it.

    #2020720
    RBZS
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    ספר בראשית פרק לט
    (ג) וירא אדניו כי ה’ אתו וכל אשר הוא עשה ה’ מצליח בידו:
    רש”י על בראשית פרק לט פסוק ג
    (ג) כי ה’ אתו – שם שמים שגור בפיו (ב”ר):
    Yosef HaTzaddik always said ברוך ה’, בעזרת ה’, אם ירצה השם and the like.

    #2020721

    @aposhiteryid

    In his early years, before he went public with his teachings and disciples came from far and wide to learn from him, the founder of the Chassidic movement, Rabbi Israel Baal Shem Tov, was an incessant traveler.

    Dressed in the clothes of a simple villager, he would travel from town to town and from hamlet to hamlet, asking questions. “How are things?” he would inquire of the water-carrier yoked to his pails, of the market-woman minding her stall, of the child playing in the doorway of his home. “Is there enough to eat? Is everyone healthy?” “Baruch Hashem, blessed be the Almighty, all is fine” or “Thanks to the Almighty, things are improving,” these simple, G‑d-fearing and G‑d-trusting Jews would reply, and the traveler would depart with the gratified step of one who has found what he was seeking.

    One day, Rabbi Israel arrived in a village and made his way to the study hall. There, in a corner, sat an ancient Torah scholar over his books, wrapped in tallit and tefillin. This was the village porush (“ascetic”), who led a life of holy seclusion. From sunrise to sunset, not a morsel of bread or a sip of water would pass his lips; he spoke to no one and never lifted his eyes from the sacred tomes. For more than fifty years he had kept to this regimen, utterly removed from the mundane cares of material life.

    So why was this stranger pestering him? “How are things?,” he was inquiring, “Is there enough to eat? Is everyone healthy?” The ascetic made no reply, hoping the stranger would go away. But the stranger only leaned closer, and his questioning grew more insistent. Impatiently, the ascetic waved him away, pointing him to the door.

    “Rabbi,” the stranger now asked, “why are you denying G‑d His livelihood?”

    The words had their desired effect: the old man was roused to indignant attention. G‑d’s livelihood?! The audacity of this uncouth peasant! “What are you saying?” he demanded in a thunderous voice. “How dare you disturb me with such blasphemous babble!”

    “Only what King David, the sweet singer of Israel, proclaims in his Psalms,” replied the Baal Shem Tov. “Tell me, Rabbi, what is the meaning of the verse , ‘And You, the Holy One, who dwells by the praises of Israel’1? ”

    “We mortal beings,” continued the Baal Shem Tov when the porush made no reply, “subsist on the sustenance that G‑d provides us in His great kindness. But what does G‑d ‘subsist’ on? On the praises of Israel! When one Jew asks another, ‘How are things’ and his fellow responds by praising and thanking the Almighty, they are nourishing G‑d, deepening His involvement with His creation.”

    #2020750
    aposhiteyid
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    Exactly
    from the story it seems that it may not be obligatory but why would you want to deny hashem his livelyhood

    #2020777
    philosopher
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    I’m really confused why someone who knows that Hashem gave him life and everything in his life would ask such a question. Perhaps someone could clarify why a Yid would not answer with a “burach Hashem”.

    #2020802
    mizmor
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    that’s a most beautiful story.

    #2020944
    Maivin
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    Why tho wouldnt you wanna say BH?

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