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  • #606671

    iced
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    Why do some women wear boots when there is no inclement weather?

    #911160

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    The better to step on your toes with.

    #911161

    The Frumguy
    Participant

    I find it to be highly untzniusdik. As if to say, “Everybody look at what I’m wearing.” Goyishe tramps wear them to also attract attention.

    #911162

    Jakbre
    Participant

    Is snow a prerequisite for boots?

    #911163

    basyechida nomore
    Participant

    Frumguy, just because you have a high tolerance for cold, doesn’t mean everyone else does too. I wear boots throughout the winter just to keep the cold out.

    #911164

    iced
    Member

    basyechida: Why do you suppose men rarely or never wear boots (unless there is inclement weather)? Is having a low cold-tolerance a women’s-only issue?

    And do you really think that even a notable percentage of these boot wielding women are really donning this gear for cold tolerance issues?

    #911165

    lost in Europe
    Participant

    I agree. I sometimes see women wearing boots when the sun is shining and it’s in the high 70’s. I find it very “prust.” it is most certainly a fashion statement and very unappropriate.

    #911166

    WIY
    Member

    HERE WE GO…

    #911167

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Short of locking women up in their houses and forcing them to wear Burkas when they absolutly must leave, what is not Prizus

    #911168

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    it is most certainly a fashion statement and very unappropriate.

    Are you saying that fashion statements are inappropriate? Please tell us why.

    #911169

    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    That’s why the Frum Lady, is a tramp!

    (To paraphrase Don Imus)

    #911170

    shmoel
    Member

    Because the intention of fashion is to be noticed, the same purpose as pritzus.

    #911171

    mommamia22
    Participant

    You guys have too much time on your hands…..

    #911172

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Because the intention of fashion is to be noticed, the same purpose as pritzus.

    Like it or not when a Chassidic man goes outside of the Shetl and into a crowd of say on the Subway. The long Peyos, The Long Beard , The Long Frock and a streimel is noticed by everyone. That might not be the intention, but it is. It definatly stands out more than a pair of boots

    #911173

    shmoel
    Member

    Fashion is worn for the purpose of getting the body noticed.

    #911175

    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    My boots look a lot nicer than my shoes, and I wear them whenever it’s 30 degrees or less (fahrenheit).

    I personally think you’re making a mountain out of a molehill.

    #911176

    yehudayona
    Participant

    So when Lipa wears his weird glasses, it so people will notice his body?

    #911177

    OneOfMany
    Participant

    One does not wield boots. One wields a Morgul blade.

    #911178

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Fashion is worn for the purpose of getting the body noticed.

    No it isn’t.

    #911179

    JustLogic
    Member

    It’s the thought that counts.

    #911181

    Englishman
    Member

    One does not wield boots. One wields a Morgul blade.

    These boots are being utilized akin to how one wields a Morgul blade.

    #911182

    mewho
    Participant

    i wear uggs boots for warmth…coz they really are ”ugg”ly.

    for Shabbos i put on nice boots

    #911183

    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    The OP is probably referring to wearing boots with short skirts. In that case, it’s the short skirt that’s the problem. Boots themselves are if anything more tznius than shoes.

    #911184

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    613..

    There are a certain boots that go over the knee that have a non-tzniut name , but Ive hardly ever seen a frum women wear them

    #911185

    OneOfMany
    Participant

    I can’t see how you could have any objection. The Nazgul are extremely tzniusdik.

    #911186

    Yatzmich
    Member

    OP,

    Why do some women wear a sweater when it’s 80 plus degrees outside?

    Answer: Because they’re WOMEN!

    No need for anymore explaining.

    As far as all you tznious posters, if you find women attractive, just admit it, don’t blame it on the boots!

    #911187

    WIY
    Member

    Is the boot wielding the woman or the woman wielding the boot?

    #911188

    just my hapence
    Participant

    WIY – It’s unhyphenated and therefore the former. But I’m just a pedant, so ignore me.

    #911189

    DaMoshe
    Participant

    I heard that someone saw a picture of Sarah Schenirer that was taken in the wintertime, in Poland. She was wearing boots. These holy women are trying to be like Sarah Schenirer. Who are we to criticize such lofty ideals?

    #911190

    yaakov doe
    Participant

    Yatzmich – For some reason the boots make a woman more attractive and I assume that’s the reason that they wear them when it’s not because of weather.

    #911191

    dolphina
    Member

    Please clarify the current rules of tznius (circa 2012): Is it assur to wear clothing that makes one look attractive? Is one supposed to walk into a clothing store and fine the most ill-fitting/ugly thing to wear that is loose and covers knees/elbows/clavicle? The line of what is/is not permitted isn’t clear to me, that’s why I ask.

    Also, at what temperature is it permitted to wear boots?

    #911192

    interjection
    Participant

    A woman is allowed to dress in a way that she feels pretty. Most boots are not suggestive but guys will be attracted to anything that moves.

    “As far as all you tznious posters, if you find women attractive, just admit it, don’t blame it on the boots!:”

    I love the line.

    #911193

    mommamia22
    Participant

    If calling attention to the body with fashion is untzniusdik, then we must rule out other things as well.

    Let’s rule out snoods with sequins, tichels with gems that shine, anything pretty for that matter.

    Let’s wear black tichels, black clothing….

    As a matter of fact, how about we encourage young women in the parsha of shidduchim to do that?? Don’t dress attractively. It may be like wielding a knife if you do. Dress ugly and hope for the best.

    #911194

    shmoel
    Member

    Remember the “shoresh” of the word “attractive”. It is to “attract”. Attracting is not something a bas yisroel should be doing.

    #911195

    WIY
    Member

    interjection

    “A woman is allowed to dress in a way that she feels pretty.”

    Where to start?!

    I guess some women (you included by your own admission) no longer care what Hashem has to say about things. Its actually quite apparent by the way some people behave that their choices are based on doing what they “feel” like.

    #911196

    WIY
    Member

    mommamia22

    No need to be extreme, however due to the fact that the fashion industry is geared towards making every woman into a piece of meat, a woman who wants to dress Tznius in this generation has to shop very carefully and be very honest if what she is buying is “really” Tnisdik or just looks great on her and she is therefore buying it.

    Just because it is being sold in a store owned by a “frum” Jew does not make it Tzniusdik. Thats not a Hechsher in any way.

    #911197

    MurphysLaw
    Member

    Iced,

    This is not good for my self-esteem, but excuse my ignorance, do you want women to walk around bare foot?

    Anyhow its incorrect to gaze at women in what can be understood to be a lustful manner, Or just general gazing is not recommended as it can lead to lewd thoughts.

    A quick look at your profile shows that you like subjects concerning the opposite gender:

    1: Gender Segregation in Jewish Cemeteries

    2: Who are the Quiet Girls Supposed To Marry?

    3: Why Are Men More Intelligent Than Women?

    4: “Better Boys Than Girls??”

    5: touching one’s nieces

    6: Women Driving

    If your desperate for a shidduch I would suggest you change some of your views concerning women.

    If your married already, I would suggest you keep your eyes on your own wife.

    #911198

    Herr Himmel
    Member

    Boot pumping women came into style when the shmutz emanating from Paris made it the fashion rage.

    #911199

    Toi
    Participant

    Women are nuts.

    #911200

    SJSinNYC
    Member

    I leave the house for work before 5 am. Sometimes, its cold then or its supposed to be cold for the day. Then I find out its actually a warm day.

    Also, my office is pretty cold, even when its warm outside. So when I don’t wear steel toed shoes, I either wear sandals (April-October) or boots (October-April).

    #911201

    puppy
    Participant

    This thread is so pathetic that I had to post.

    Please get your definitions right. There’s fashion and there’s tznius. it might coincide but do have 2 different definitions.

    Also, I NEVER even heard of the concept of boots being attractive or untzniusdig.

    Maybe I’m wrong but I’m just finding this thread absurd.

    There is no reason why women have to justify their boots wearing.

    #911202

    interjection
    Participant

    I don’t think the men and women in this thread are talking about the same pair of boots.

    #911206

    mewho
    Participant

    here’s a thought………if you dont like seeing them , then avert your eyes if you notice them. no one is asking you to stare!

    #911207

    OneOfMany
    Participant

    Boots that wield women? Oh, that makes a lot more sense…

    #911208

    Ima2many
    Member

    I have been married more than 10 years. My husband has never once deigned to notice another woman’s footwear. He barely notices mine! I think you have a problem with shmiras einayim. Stop worrying about what the women are wearing and focus on yourself.

    #911209

    anonymrs
    Participant

    really? seriously? wearing boots is a problem? must have been a guy who asked that question, and another one who said theres something wrong with it….

    i dont know about all of you, but i cant fathom how those barely there womens shoes are supposed to keep your feet warm in the winter. i have snow boots, really nice boots for shabbos (that someone gave me, otherwise i would not have them) and a pair of warm boots to keep my toes warm. when my toes get cold, the rest of me gets cold, and i cant warm up. and no one has ever told me that boots are a problem. please do us all a favor, and stop making up new laws and restrictions. there are really enough out there already as it is, and its hard enough to just keep the laws as they are. please dont make it harder on us…..

    #911210

    JustHavingFun
    Participant

    I think the designers of 5″ stiletto heel boots (for snow?) should be subjected to reading this page and memorizing it. Oh, the pain of it all!

    #911211

    shmoel
    Member

    Why don’t men seem to need boots to keep their “toes warm”?

    #911212

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Why don’t men seem to need boots to keep their “toes warm”?

    Maybe not for toes warm, but hiking boots give better traction and are water proof in case there is a little rain

    #911213

    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    Shmoel – Men also don’t wear coats until they will literally freeze. It’s a man thing.

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