November 26, 2012 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #606671icedMember
Why do some women wear boots when there is no inclement weather?November 26, 2012 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #911160
The better to step on your toes with.November 26, 2012 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #911161The FrumguyParticipant
I find it to be highly untzniusdik. As if to say, “Everybody look at what I’m wearing.” Goyishe tramps wear them to also attract attention.November 26, 2012 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #911162JakbreParticipant
Is snow a prerequisite for boots?November 26, 2012 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #911163basyechida nomoreParticipant
Frumguy, just because you have a high tolerance for cold, doesn’t mean everyone else does too. I wear boots throughout the winter just to keep the cold out.November 26, 2012 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #911164icedMember
basyechida: Why do you suppose men rarely or never wear boots (unless there is inclement weather)? Is having a low cold-tolerance a women’s-only issue?
And do you really think that even a notable percentage of these boot wielding women are really donning this gear for cold tolerance issues?November 26, 2012 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #911165lost in EuropeParticipant
I agree. I sometimes see women wearing boots when the sun is shining and it’s in the high 70’s. I find it very “prust.” it is most certainly a fashion statement and very unappropriate.November 26, 2012 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #911166
HERE WE GO…November 26, 2012 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #911167
Short of locking women up in their houses and forcing them to wear Burkas when they absolutly must leave, what is not PrizusNovember 26, 2012 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #911168
it is most certainly a fashion statement and very unappropriate.
Are you saying that fashion statements are inappropriate? Please tell us why.November 26, 2012 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #911169gavra_at_workParticipant
That’s why the Frum Lady, is a tramp!
(To paraphrase Don Imus)November 26, 2012 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm #911170
Because the intention of fashion is to be noticed, the same purpose as pritzus.November 26, 2012 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #911171mommamia22Participant
You guys have too much time on your hands…..November 26, 2012 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm #911172
Because the intention of fashion is to be noticed, the same purpose as pritzus.
Like it or not when a Chassidic man goes outside of the Shetl and into a crowd of say on the Subway. The long Peyos, The Long Beard , The Long Frock and a streimel is noticed by everyone. That might not be the intention, but it is. It definatly stands out more than a pair of bootsNovember 26, 2012 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #911173
Fashion is worn for the purpose of getting the body noticed.November 27, 2012 1:14 am at 1:14 am #911175
My boots look a lot nicer than my shoes, and I wear them whenever it’s 30 degrees or less (fahrenheit).
I personally think you’re making a mountain out of a molehill.November 27, 2012 1:21 am at 1:21 am #911176yehudayonaParticipant
So when Lipa wears his weird glasses, it so people will notice his body?November 27, 2012 1:31 am at 1:31 am #911177
One does not wield boots. One wields a Morgul blade.November 27, 2012 1:51 am at 1:51 am #911178
Fashion is worn for the purpose of getting the body noticed.
No it isn’t.November 27, 2012 2:07 am at 2:07 am #911179JustLogicMember
It’s the thought that counts.November 27, 2012 2:38 am at 2:38 am #911181EnglishmanMember
One does not wield boots. One wields a Morgul blade.
These boots are being utilized akin to how one wields a Morgul blade.November 27, 2012 2:49 am at 2:49 am #911182mewhoParticipant
i wear uggs boots for warmth…coz they really are ”ugg”ly.
for Shabbos i put on nice bootsNovember 27, 2012 3:04 am at 3:04 am #911183
The OP is probably referring to wearing boots with short skirts. In that case, it’s the short skirt that’s the problem. Boots themselves are if anything more tznius than shoes.November 27, 2012 3:12 am at 3:12 am #911184
There are a certain boots that go over the knee that have a non-tzniut name , but Ive hardly ever seen a frum women wear themNovember 27, 2012 3:13 am at 3:13 am #911185
I can’t see how you could have any objection. The Nazgul are extremely tzniusdik.November 27, 2012 3:58 am at 3:58 am #911186YatzmichMember
Why do some women wear a sweater when it’s 80 plus degrees outside?
Answer: Because they’re WOMEN!
No need for anymore explaining.
As far as all you tznious posters, if you find women attractive, just admit it, don’t blame it on the boots!November 27, 2012 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #911187
Is the boot wielding the woman or the woman wielding the boot?November 27, 2012 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #911188just my hapenceParticipant
WIY – It’s unhyphenated and therefore the former. But I’m just a pedant, so ignore me.November 27, 2012 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm #911189DaMosheParticipant
I heard that someone saw a picture of Sarah Schenirer that was taken in the wintertime, in Poland. She was wearing boots. These holy women are trying to be like Sarah Schenirer. Who are we to criticize such lofty ideals?November 27, 2012 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #911190yaakov doeParticipant
Yatzmich – For some reason the boots make a woman more attractive and I assume that’s the reason that they wear them when it’s not because of weather.November 27, 2012 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #911191dolphinaMember
Please clarify the current rules of tznius (circa 2012): Is it assur to wear clothing that makes one look attractive? Is one supposed to walk into a clothing store and fine the most ill-fitting/ugly thing to wear that is loose and covers knees/elbows/clavicle? The line of what is/is not permitted isn’t clear to me, that’s why I ask.
Also, at what temperature is it permitted to wear boots?November 27, 2012 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #911192interjectionParticipant
A woman is allowed to dress in a way that she feels pretty. Most boots are not suggestive but guys will be attracted to anything that moves.
“As far as all you tznious posters, if you find women attractive, just admit it, don’t blame it on the boots!:”
I love the line.November 27, 2012 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #911193mommamia22Participant
If calling attention to the body with fashion is untzniusdik, then we must rule out other things as well.
Let’s rule out snoods with sequins, tichels with gems that shine, anything pretty for that matter.
Let’s wear black tichels, black clothing….
As a matter of fact, how about we encourage young women in the parsha of shidduchim to do that?? Don’t dress attractively. It may be like wielding a knife if you do. Dress ugly and hope for the best.November 27, 2012 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #911194
Remember the “shoresh” of the word “attractive”. It is to “attract”. Attracting is not something a bas yisroel should be doing.November 27, 2012 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm #911195
“A woman is allowed to dress in a way that she feels pretty.”
Where to start?!
I guess some women (you included by your own admission) no longer care what Hashem has to say about things. Its actually quite apparent by the way some people behave that their choices are based on doing what they “feel” like.November 27, 2012 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #911196
No need to be extreme, however due to the fact that the fashion industry is geared towards making every woman into a piece of meat, a woman who wants to dress Tznius in this generation has to shop very carefully and be very honest if what she is buying is “really” Tnisdik or just looks great on her and she is therefore buying it.
Just because it is being sold in a store owned by a “frum” Jew does not make it Tzniusdik. Thats not a Hechsher in any way.November 27, 2012 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #911197MurphysLawMember
This is not good for my self-esteem, but excuse my ignorance, do you want women to walk around bare foot?
Anyhow its incorrect to gaze at women in what can be understood to be a lustful manner, Or just general gazing is not recommended as it can lead to lewd thoughts.
A quick look at your profile shows that you like subjects concerning the opposite gender:
1: Gender Segregation in Jewish Cemeteries
2: Who are the Quiet Girls Supposed To Marry?
3: Why Are Men More Intelligent Than Women?
4: “Better Boys Than Girls??”
5: touching one’s nieces
6: Women Driving
If your desperate for a shidduch I would suggest you change some of your views concerning women.
If your married already, I would suggest you keep your eyes on your own wife.November 28, 2012 12:10 am at 12:10 am #911198Herr HimmelMember
Boot pumping women came into style when the shmutz emanating from Paris made it the fashion rage.November 28, 2012 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #911199ToiParticipant
Women are nuts.November 29, 2012 12:05 am at 12:05 am #911200SJSinNYCMember
I leave the house for work before 5 am. Sometimes, its cold then or its supposed to be cold for the day. Then I find out its actually a warm day.
Also, my office is pretty cold, even when its warm outside. So when I don’t wear steel toed shoes, I either wear sandals (April-October) or boots (October-April).November 29, 2012 6:06 am at 6:06 am #911201puppyParticipant
This thread is so pathetic that I had to post.
Please get your definitions right. There’s fashion and there’s tznius. it might coincide but do have 2 different definitions.
Also, I NEVER even heard of the concept of boots being attractive or untzniusdig.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’m just finding this thread absurd.
There is no reason why women have to justify their boots wearing.November 29, 2012 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm #911202interjectionParticipant
I don’t think the men and women in this thread are talking about the same pair of boots.December 2, 2012 12:15 am at 12:15 am #911206mewhoParticipant
here’s a thought………if you dont like seeing them , then avert your eyes if you notice them. no one is asking you to stare!December 2, 2012 2:13 am at 2:13 am #911207
Boots that wield women? Oh, that makes a lot more sense…December 2, 2012 3:46 am at 3:46 am #911208Ima2manyMember
I have been married more than 10 years. My husband has never once deigned to notice another woman’s footwear. He barely notices mine! I think you have a problem with shmiras einayim. Stop worrying about what the women are wearing and focus on yourself.December 2, 2012 4:35 am at 4:35 am #911209anonymrsParticipant
really? seriously? wearing boots is a problem? must have been a guy who asked that question, and another one who said theres something wrong with it….
i dont know about all of you, but i cant fathom how those barely there womens shoes are supposed to keep your feet warm in the winter. i have snow boots, really nice boots for shabbos (that someone gave me, otherwise i would not have them) and a pair of warm boots to keep my toes warm. when my toes get cold, the rest of me gets cold, and i cant warm up. and no one has ever told me that boots are a problem. please do us all a favor, and stop making up new laws and restrictions. there are really enough out there already as it is, and its hard enough to just keep the laws as they are. please dont make it harder on us…..December 2, 2012 4:52 am at 4:52 am #911210JustHavingFunParticipant
I think the designers of 5″ stiletto heel boots (for snow?) should be subjected to reading this page and memorizing it. Oh, the pain of it all!December 2, 2012 6:26 am at 6:26 am #911211
Why don’t men seem to need boots to keep their “toes warm”?December 2, 2012 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #911212
Why don’t men seem to need boots to keep their “toes warm”?
Maybe not for toes warm, but hiking boots give better traction and are water proof in case there is a little rainDecember 2, 2012 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #911213
Shmoel – Men also don’t wear coats until they will literally freeze. It’s a man thing.
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