October 25, 2015 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #616540
I received an email with an article written by Roy Neuberger. Here are some excerpts from it: I capitalized some of it to bring more attention to some specific messages. It’s a bit long but PLEASE READ IT ALL. Thank you.
“At the end of days, Israel will be in the exile of Ishmael…and this exile will be more difficult than the others. The Ishmaelites will go from being tent-dwelling nomads to ruling over the entire world and Israel, and they will cause us unprecedented grief. They will seek to wipe us off the face of the earth, AND WITHOUT DIVINE INTERVENTION, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THEIR MURDEROUS DESIGNS. At that time, we will CRY OUT TO G-D AND HE WILL HEAR OUR CRIES AND PRAYERS. HENCE THE NAME “ISHMAEL” YISHMA AND KEIL MEANING G-D WILL HEAR.”
“What is happening now with the offspring of Ishmael is preordained. In order for us to prevail over Ishmael, we must raise our voices in prayer. His name does not hint that if we are STRONG AND BATTLE HIM, we will defeat him. His name does not hint that IF WE ENGAGE HIM IN DIPLOMACY, WE WILL OUTWIT HIM. (here it is…) HIS NAME PROCLAIMS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT HIM IS THROUGH PRAYER”. (end of quote from the article)
EVERYONE PLEASE SHARE THIS. WE MUST DAVEN TO HASHEM! WE MUST ALSO HAVE TRUE AHAVAS YISROEL AND ACHDUS! YES EVEN HERE IN THE COFFEE ROOM WHERE MOST OF US DON’T KNOW EACH OTHER. SINAS CHINAM GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. LET’S PUT AN END TO IT. TEFILAH, TESHUVA, – THAT’S WHAT WILL SAVE US.
MAY WE MERIT THE PEACEFUL DAYS OF MOSHIACH VERY VERY SOON! AMEN!October 25, 2015 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1112137☕️coffee addictParticipant
I’m sorry for being a wet blanket however how is this “new” we have been having problems with the Arabs since 1949October 26, 2015 1:11 am at 1:11 am #1112139
ca: Ur right. It’s not new at all. But I feel it’s worth posting. It’s a very important message. Don’t you think?October 26, 2015 5:18 am at 5:18 am #1112140
I have written YOUR MESSAGE ABOVE many times-which for everyone’s information comes directly from Hashem given over to Zechariah Ha navi and written in his Sefer-upon Tragedies occurring in K lal Yisroel and other tragic times BUT NOBODY seems to be ready to confess and admit to Hashem that it’s time for us to wake up and do teshuva ASAP. So the t zaros just continues R”L (just like when a child won’t listen to his father or Rebbi they have no choice but to keep punishing him. This is what we call a potch of love)
Good luck tov you to wake up k lal Yisroel to do teshuva. I wish you all the Hatzlacha cause YOUR GONNA REALLY NEED ITOctober 26, 2015 5:49 am at 5:49 am #1112141MammeleParticipant
MA have you given up? Why the cynicism? Just a bit of rebuke, one of the reasons you feel like you’re talking to the walls is that you’re too negative. Gefen’s post emphasizing Tefillah somehow seems more uplifting. Is it just me?
In any case rebuke must be given in a form that’s palatable to the listeners. If it’s falling on deaf ears reassess your timing, tone and message.October 26, 2015 6:08 am at 6:08 am #1112142
Here he’s back again… Warning us – in the name of HaShem (DIRECTLY), to confess and do teshuva.
No, Agent sent from above, she didn’t write YOUR MESSAGE. Read her’s. She’s not coming in from cloud nine to tell us – in the name of HaShem – the latest rant. “NOBODY seems to be ready to confess and admit..” She’s doing it with caring, lovingness, thoughtfulness. Her concern is so apparent from within those lines.
Kindly write to Am Yisroel with proper “decorum”. (Unless you actually had a ????? and was told to say such… ?? ??? ?.)October 26, 2015 7:36 am at 7:36 am #1112143October 26, 2015 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm #1112144
Could you at least bump my responses to your rants too?October 26, 2015 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #1112145
Maybe we need to LOVE the yishmailim instead of constantly hating on them. Maybe THAT will bring Moshiach. Our best prayers got us nowhere so far. Maybe we need a change in attitude.October 26, 2015 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm #1112146☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲Participant
In case you don’t know, they started hating us
long before we started “hating on them.”
And just what practical application could…
Ah, forget it, I’m wasting my breath, aren’t I?October 27, 2015 4:04 am at 4:04 am #1112147
Thank you Mammele and Little Froggie. I really appreciate your posts.
Zev7- How can we love them? Their goal is to kill us all. And they claim this goal in the name of religion.October 27, 2015 5:01 am at 5:01 am #1112148
Maybe we need to LOVE the yishmailim instead of constantly hating on them.
Maybe we need to work on our ahavas Yisroel.
Our best prayers got us nowhere so far.
Why do you assume that we’ve offered our best prayers, and worse, why do you assume that the prayers we’ve offered haven’t prevented innumerable additional tragedies, r”l?
Maybe we need a change in attitude.
Maskim…October 27, 2015 5:08 am at 5:08 am #1112149👑RebYidd23Participant
Some people do hate all Arabs, which is wrong. Some Arabs are Jewish, so it’s a lack of ahavas yisrael.October 27, 2015 5:21 am at 5:21 am #1112150
There’s a Pasuk in the Koran that says “there’s a rock behind you kill him” Muslims believe that the word rock refers to a Jew. Just like we have a Mitzvah to destroy Amalek they believe that they have a commandment to kill jewsOctober 27, 2015 5:23 am at 5:23 am #1112151sm29Participant
It’s very accurate unfortunately that some people don’t want to wake up. You know how it is when people go to a lecture but some don’t internalize it. We all have something we need to work on, whether better prayer, middos, etc. We can and should do something. Rabbi Wallerstein says in a video on Torah Anytime about that it’s better to do it now before Moshiach comes.October 27, 2015 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #1112152
I know, it’s hard to love someone who wants to kill you. But if we can do it, it will definitely help the situation more than anything. A lot of them are not really at fault.October 28, 2015 8:41 am at 8:41 am #1112153sm29Participant
It’s not about loving Arabs, it’s about loving and respecting fellow yiddenOctober 28, 2015 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #1112154
We’ve had that attitude until now and look where we are.October 29, 2015 12:30 am at 12:30 am #1112156skripkaParticipant
zev7, stop the trollingOctober 29, 2015 2:54 am at 2:54 am #1112157Shir hashirimMember
Just treat me how you’d like to be treated.
Please don’t ignore me when I’m a newcomer to your shul.
Please don’t look me up and down like you do when your shopping and picking out a new pair of shoes.
Please drive respectfully and share the road even though your eating breakfast at the same time and on an important phone call.
Please don’t interrogate me.
Sending you a smile cuz your a fellow yid 🙂October 29, 2015 3:13 am at 3:13 am #1112158
Daas Yochid; +1000000000000 Totally Maskim
Skripka; yeah, I’m thinking the same thing. Sounds like he’s trolling.October 29, 2015 3:22 am at 3:22 am #1112159HaKatanParticipant
“we have been having problems with the Arabs since 1949”
This is not accurate.
Actually, the Zionists have caused the Jews (starting in Eretz Yisrael) problems with the Arabs since well before 1949, like the Chevron Massacre in the ’20s, for example, and the Mufti’s becoming an Angel of Death for our WW II-era brethren in response to the already ongoing Zionist invasion and provocations.October 29, 2015 4:48 am at 4:48 am #1112160👑RebYidd23Participant
And now we will start the whole Zionism discussion again, and it will end with a closed thread with nobody’s opinion having changed.October 29, 2015 9:21 pm at 9:21 pm #1112161
It’s amazing how I preach love for all mankind and i’m accused of trolling. Is this something they teach in yeshivas? If it is then yeshivas aren’t teaching Judaism. And if Judaism itself doesn’t teach love for all mankind, i want nothing to do with it.October 29, 2015 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #1112162YW Moderator-29 👨💻Moderator
I agree with your comment about trolling, I had the same response to their claims. On the other hand what I think they are trying to say is that there is a huge difference between loving all of Hashems creations, and believing that love will prevent a person with a knife from killing you.October 29, 2015 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #1112163
It will prevent it because the day that all of God’s creations love each other the way God intended for it to be, Moshiach will come.
A brief lesson in psychology: Hating someone who already hates you only adds to the other persons hate. Loving someone even though he hates you opens the door to the possibility of him loving you too.
If we start pointing fingers and saying they are to blame for all the fighting, we may be right. But doing so only adds to the fighting. If we can learn to love them even though we feel they are wronging us, we might have a chance at bringing peace to the world.
It isn’t our job to “prevent” fighting and harm. God and only God runs the world. He doesn’t need any help. It is of course true that he expects us to defend ourselves when under attack, but holding grudges and hate in our hearts doesn’t defend us. It adds to the attack.October 29, 2015 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm #1112164
It says NOWHERE you have to LOVE HaShem’s creations. There’s a Mitzvah of ????? ????? ????, not to Hashem’s creation. There’s a Mitzvah of Darkei Shalom, Kiddush Hashem, Mentchlichkite, but it’s actually forbidden to mix the two.
This may not be the proper place to further expound, expand, elucidate on this subject. But according to a piece I read from Rav Pinkus zt”l, one may not change, alter, falsify etc, any Mitzvah in the Torah, even just for “”mentchlichkite”” or “”gemutlichkite”” concerns. Even if in practice he won’t do as such. And he says this is in the category of ???? ??? ?????. There’s no Mitzvah to go around publicizing, proclaiming the truths, but if cornered one must state the truth ???? ????.October 29, 2015 10:31 pm at 10:31 pm #1112165golferParticipant
Yes, yes Hakatan.
Also we don’t eat the gid hanasheh because the Zionists provoked the Sar of Eisav to fight with Yaakov Avinu.
Thay also persuaded Paroh to enslave us, Amalek to attack us, the Plishtim to engage us in battle, the Bavlim to destroy the Bais Hamikdash and the French to burn the Talmud.
RebYid appears to be correct.October 29, 2015 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm #1112166
??) ???? ?????? ?’ ???? ????????? ?????? ??) ????? ???? ?????? ??????? ??? ??
Also :????? ??”? and I’m sure other sources.
We are supposed to hate some people.
He’s not trolling. He’s unfortunately misguided and thinks that Yiddishkeit needs to conform to his views, not the other way around. It’s very sad.November 1, 2015 12:37 am at 12:37 am #1112167ExcellenceParticipant
I know plenty of tzaddikim throughout recent centuries who singley or in groups tried to bring Moshiach through special tefillah. They were either told to stop or punished sharply for that.November 9, 2015 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #1112168HaKatanParticipant
It is foolish to spout nonsense in response to documented historical fact repeated to us by Torah greats over the past century, many of whom were there at the time and actually lived that history.November 9, 2015 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #1112169Sam2Participant
LF: See Yam Shel Shlomo Bava Kama 4:9. Several Achronim comment that we don’t hold like that, as evidenced by how we printed the Gemara.November 10, 2015 12:33 am at 12:33 am #1112170
DY – “We are supposed to hate some people.”
And what does Tosphos say? Look it up. I remember that Gemorrah.November 10, 2015 12:44 am at 12:44 am #1112171
Health, I don’t see how that’s relevant here.November 10, 2015 2:46 pm at 2:46 pm #1112172
DY -“Health, I don’t see how that’s relevant here.”
You don’t gain by hating anyone! You’re allowed to hate Reshoyim, but how do you know who is? Do you hate all Germans? The same thing with Arabs.November 10, 2015 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #1112173
I didn’t say all Arabs. I’m talking about the ones who want to kill us.November 10, 2015 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1112174
DY -“I didn’t say all Arabs. I’m talking about the ones who want to kill us”
I must have confused you with other posters; like “How can we love them? Their goal is to kill us all.” “Some people do hate all Arabs, which is wrong. Some Arabs are Jewish, so it’s a lack of ahavas yisrael.”
The implications of these posts is that you can hate all Arabs!November 10, 2015 11:31 pm at 11:31 pm #1112175
I don’t think that is the case. I don’t think, for example, that anyone hates the Arab who hid and protected the bochurim who got lost in an Arab village.November 11, 2015 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #1112176
DY -“I don’t think that is the case. I don’t think, for example, that anyone hates the Arab who hid and protected the bochurim who got lost in an Arab village.”
So you’re agreeing with me or you’re using the exception to disagree?!?November 11, 2015 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #1112177JosephParticipant
I cannot possibly imagine he is disagreeing with you. Imagine the wrath that would fall upon him dared he have done so!November 11, 2015 3:57 pm at 3:57 pm #1112178
Joe – what about you – do you agree or disagree?November 11, 2015 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #1112179JosephParticipant
Agree or disagree with which idea?November 11, 2015 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm #1112180feivelParticipant
I agree with JosephNovember 11, 2015 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #1112181feivelParticipant
When zahavasdad posts on this thread I will disagree with him.
Also rabbitofberlinNovember 11, 2015 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #1112182
Health, I don’t understand the question. I think we should hate sinners (according to the Torah’s requirements), and not hate those we’re not supposed to. Don’t you agree?November 11, 2015 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #1112183
Joe – “Agree or disagree with which idea?”
“The implications of these posts is that you can hate all Arabs!”
Joe & DY – Hating all Arabs!November 11, 2015 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm #1112184rabbiofberlinParticipant
feivel: Wow! My presence must disturb your nights and days! I have barely commented in recent months, yet you single me out…..unless it is a different person…after all, you spell the name differently…..November 16, 2015 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #1112185pcozMember
Rav Hutner says Yishmael hated us from the foundation of the state because till then we were nomadic like them.November 17, 2015 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm #1112186
G-d is with meNovember 17, 2015 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm #1112187
Of course He is. He is with all of us.
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