October 9, 2013 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #610839straightalkMember
It has come to my attention the utter ignorance and downright cynicism surrounding the natural healing capability of vegetable juicing, sticking to a plant based organic diet and healing herbs.I know for a fact that they work however when I discuss this with people I’m met with a narrow mindedness that only chemo can rid a person of cancer and everything is is quackery. This is why so many are dying of cancer.October 9, 2013 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #978633LevAryehMember
Why is this a sore topic with you? When people tell me that Aspirin doesn’t work, I don’t call them ignorant or cynical.October 9, 2013 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #978634sharpMember
I know for a fact that they work
How can you be so sure?October 9, 2013 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #978635🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipant
straightalk- wow. You totally got me convinced.October 9, 2013 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #978636DaMosheParticipant
My mother in law actually tried all that natural diet healing stuff. She died from her cancer anyway.
You don’t know why so many are dying from cancer, and frankly, your post is extremely offensive to those who have lost family and/or friends to the terrible disease.
If you’re so sure it works, go open a clinic and start curing people. You’ll be a millionaire in no time. Or, you’ll end up bankrupt from all the lawsuits filed against you when your method fails.October 9, 2013 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm #978637ubiquitinParticipant
To answer OP’s question:
No, sadlyOctober 10, 2013 12:07 am at 12:07 am #978638yaakov doeParticipant
Not a cure at all. Eating a natural diet as most people dif 75 years ago may result in less cancer.October 10, 2013 12:25 am at 12:25 am #978639heretohelpMember
Straightalk- I’m curious, what medical school did you go to? Where did you do your fellowship in oncology? And what studies have you conducted and what articles have you published on your findings? I’d like to learn more.October 10, 2013 12:33 am at 12:33 am #978640Sam2Participant
Yaakov doe: Having the shorter life expectancy that existed 75 years ago would also result in less cancer. Dying of other diseases before getting cancer also causes less cancer.October 10, 2013 1:00 am at 1:00 am #978641yytzParticipant
There are many stories and anecdotes (from doctors as well as non-doctors) about advanced cancer just disappearing for no explainable reason. There is much we don’t know about why cancer goes into remission (in the absence of anti-cancer drugs and therapies.) It is possible that diet can cause cancer remission in some cases.
In fact, I did a quick search on Google Scholar and found this: a study called “Case Report: Spontaneous Remission of Metastatic Endometrial Carcinoma Through the Lim Lifestyle,” in the scientific journal Nutrition and Cancer, discussing two cases in which cancer had gone into remission apparently as a result of the Lim Lifestyle, which involves a vegan diet. (There is even a book called History of Alternative Cancer Diets.)
That said, although I am familiar with a vegan diet being prescribed by some doctors to treat heart disease, I have never heard it touted as a surefire treatment for cancer, and I would be very surprised if it works in all (or even most) cases.
There are people who think homeopathy can cure cancer but there’s some vast conspiracy covering up this knowledge to benefit cancer drug companies or something. Be careful — people have died because they refused regular treatments in favor of ineffective alternative treatments. That’s not to say alternative medicine doesn’t ever work — I’m just advocating skepticism of any claims that such a therapy always works or is unpopular only because of mysterious dark forces controlling the world.October 10, 2013 1:06 am at 1:06 am #978642hudiParticipant
Nurse here. No, if only it were so simple! Cancer cells are abnormal cells that do not self destruct like “normal” abnormally functioning cells. They continuously replicate and replace normal cells. Eventually, the organ cannot function properly and support itself and organ failure occurs. Some cancer cells secrete hormones that are normally secreted by other parts of the body,which wrecks havoc as you can imagine. Diet has a big impact on health, but cannot give cancer cells telomeres or the ability to apoptose.October 10, 2013 1:27 am at 1:27 am #978643akupermaParticipant
1. No cancer can be cured by diet. You need something that will kill the cancer faster than it kills you. That’s why most cancer treatments are toxic in nature.
2. Some cancers seem related to specific types of foods, but correlations are not causation.
3. Some totally natural and organic foods can be carcinogenic. It depends on the ingedients, not how they are produced.October 10, 2013 3:43 am at 3:43 am #978644takahmamashParticipant
TrollOctober 10, 2013 4:01 am at 4:01 am #978645rebdonielMember
It cannot cure the yeneh machla, but a healthy diet based in fruits, veggies, whole grains, and legumes can certainly help prevent cancer.October 10, 2013 4:04 am at 4:04 am #978646–Participant
I’m surprised no one mentioned biodynamic agriculture and anthroposophical medicine. Organic and vegan are so last millennium.October 10, 2013 8:29 am at 8:29 am #978647notasheepMember
certain foods which are rich in antioxidants can help prevent cancer, however I would seriously advise someone who was already suffering not to forgo treatment in favour of these diets. At that stage they won’t help.
Just for the record, tobacco is also a plant. Should they continue smoking then?October 10, 2013 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm #978648jewish sourceParticipant
My Mother Ah was nifter recently from YM. Let me tell you she was a health nut.I am a true believer that YM is not really preventable as you see it happens to so many people all types and in every situation. ( of-course we must do everything in our power to be healthy like the Rambam says)
We are not here forever its a short stay CHAP AREIN. Be erliche yidden be the best we can be.
when we bench someone to marich yomim ,we are benching him to have long productive days because it is not about how many years we live its about how productive we are everyday.October 11, 2013 12:42 am at 12:42 am #978649squeakParticipant
According to the quacks from this thread, you need Canesten.
Halevai it was that easy to treat or prevent. Sheesh.October 13, 2013 10:39 am at 10:39 am #978650mrs ds daughterMember
Just some food for thought…
“According to the latest Japanese Scientific Research, a full ripe banana with dark patches on the yellow skin produces a substance called TNF (Tumor Necrosis Factor) which has the ability to combat abnormal cells. The more darker patches the skin has the higher its immunity enhancement quality. Hence, the riper the banana the better the anti-cancer quality. A yellow skin banana with dark spots on it is 8X more effective in enhancing the property of white blood cells than a green skin version. Eating just 1 banana a day increases immunity.”October 13, 2013 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #978651TorahrocksMember
I know this is nothing but hearsay, but it sounded at least possible when this was first told to me.
So I understand those who will want to take it with a grain of salt.
About 25 years ago someone had told me he had heard of a lubavitch chassid who had been diagnosed with Cancer.
I was told this chassid who did not eat much to begin with, cut his diet even more to where he just had a small can of Sardines each day and cured himself by starving the Cancer out.
This is not to say this would work for everyone, just that it worked in his particular case.
But my point here is that according to the one who told me this (I don’t remember who after all these years, but someone in Crown Heights, might know this story, if it’s true.), said it was accomplished through a strict diet but ###not### a Vegan or Vegetarian diet.
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