June 14, 2020 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #1872305
Sorry. #1 – i understand you’re argument to be that traitors should not be glorified – regardless if the rebellion was justified. Which is weird because until three years ago you didn’t feel this way. In fact, Mrs. Pelosi, who I believe is saying this argument, her own father put up a Gen. Lee statue in Baltimore (according to Conservative media). And like I’ve written elsewhere, you don’t have a problem glorifying John Brown or Geronimo. So let’s stop pretending we have an issue with traitors at large. The claim that we always were upset about these “traitors” but we shut our mouths for the sake of peace also doesn’t make sense. Besides, what happened three years ago that we stopped caring about peace? #5 (1) kj wasn’t a signatory to the Constitution. Virginia was. (2) And they felt that the USA was becoming unconstitutional. Because the Constitution recognized slaves as property of their owners and the north wanted to be “mafkir” them. (3) And back then some people understood that it would be legal for a state to secede with a legislative vote. After 1869, this became illegal. #8 the majority of Americans wanted to “live and let live” after the secession. But Lincoln wanted his war, so he provoked South Carolina in attacking Ft Sumter. So yes, he might have had the legal authority to squash the rebellion but he didn’t have the populace on his side.June 15, 2020 12:15 am at 12:15 am #1872372bsharg2Participant
The Democratic Party are becoming fascists. They are removing anything that they disagree with. Anything that doesn’t fit their agenda. “Anti-Fa” supposedly anti-fascist, is actually fascist. It’s fascist vs fascist.
In the past few weeks, they have destroyed countless people, their lives and their livlihoods. They got rid of Gone with the Wind.
Next, they will burn books. They will burn films. Just as the Nazis burned Jewish books, the Democrats will burn the books of so-called “racists”.
The problem is that currently, its hard to find actual racists, so they attack people who have committed some minor offense 20 years ago.June 15, 2020 8:16 am at 8:16 am #1872386MilhouseParticipant
The republican party and Trump are openly and unabashed racists. White Supremacy is their party platform.
They would love that all minorities should be slaves again. The minorities are sub-humans compared to the white master race.
L I A R . L I A R . L I A R . L I A R . L I A R . L I A R . L I A R .
jackk is a disgusting hate-filled liar and every word he writes is a disgusting lie. I don’t believe he’s even a yid. I’ve certainly seen no evidence of it. Just take you hateful lies and go. Now.
EditedJune 15, 2020 8:17 am at 8:17 am #1872387MilhouseParticipant
Whatever Lee was, he was not a traitor. He felt he owed his loyalty to Virginia. He was against secession, but when the state eventually voted to secede he had no choice. To join the North and fight his state would have been treason. So he did the honorable thing.June 15, 2020 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #1872798
I was waiting for this, apparently theyre going after Julis Caesar statues in Belgium.June 15, 2020 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #1872818JosephParticipant
All white males are bad, in left-wing counter-culture, Shnitzel. They attacked statues of Winston Churchill and even Abraham Lincoln last week in Europe.June 15, 2020 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #1872840
“he had no choice”
And that is the lie. Among the Virginians who served the Union were Lt. Gen. Winfield Scott, Commanding General of the Union Army; Rear Admiral Samuel Phillips Lee, who was Robert E. Lee’s third cousin; Major General George H. Thomas, who had survived the Nat Turner slave rebellion as a child and became one of the best Union generals; and Brigadier General William Terrill, who would die in service to the Union at the Battle of Perryville. Lee was offered the #2 position in the entire Union Army by Gen. Scott even though he was only a Colonel at the time, and both Scott and his cousin Samuel Phillips Lee tried to talk Robert E. Lee out of committing treason. Lee’s plantation was within sight of the US capitol, was within walking distance to Washington DC, and it had been part of DC until the 1840s!June 15, 2020 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #1872841
Lee had sworn an oath to the United States on March 28, 1861 when he was promoted to Colonel in the United States Army. He resigned from the United States Army on April 20, 1861 and committed treason two days later.June 15, 2020 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #1872842
Julius Caesar was a genocidal mass murderer. But he was good to Jews.June 15, 2020 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm #1872886JosephParticipant
Charlie: To be technical, it had been part of the City of Washington but not part of the District of Columbia.June 16, 2020 3:23 am at 3:23 am #1872925
“To be technical, it had been part of the City of Washington but not part of the District of Columbia.”
No, the opposite was true. It was part of “Alexandria County” in the District of Columbia. It included much of what is now the independent City of Alexandria, which became independent of the County in 1870. It had been returned to Virginia in 1846. The County was renamed Arlington County in 1920. I used to live there.June 16, 2020 6:52 am at 6:52 am #1872958👑RebYidd23Participant
Note that I said taken down, not destroyed.June 17, 2020 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1873846HistorianParticipant
Yet to see any voices from those activists re anti Semitic Henry Ford’s racism including against blacks through his east on jazz music.June 18, 2020 12:30 am at 12:30 am #18738861Participant
CH it’s not treason to resign.June 22, 2020 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #1875266
There’s a statue of George Washington in London’s Trafalgar Square.June 25, 2020 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1876298
My theoretical question just became למעשה. Would you agree with the Change.org petition to cancel the infamous french kibg Louis who directed the שריפת התלמוד and rename St Louis, Missouri?June 25, 2020 11:07 am at 11:07 am #1876481ubiquitinParticipant
What do you mean by would I agree?
If people are opposed to it they have every right to sign a petition and get it removed.
Yes I agree with that.
Am I personally opposed to it?
No I don’t think the city is named St. Louis to commemorate his act of burning the talmud .
Would I be opposed to a statue designed to glorify St. Louis for his role hin burning the talmud?
Of course! wouldnt you?
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