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February 2, 2012 3:48 pm at 3:48 pm #601882mamashtakahMember
I am genuinely curious – how many Chassidic Rebbes are there? The reason I ask is because I know some of the large Chasidic groups – Satmar, Belz, Bobobv, Nikolsburg, Vishnitz, etc. Yet I read notices sometimes here on YWN about “the XYZ Rebbe” is ill and people should daven for him, when I’ve never heard of the group. Are there really that many small Chasidic groups? Are they all inter-related?
And,a related question – are the Yerushalimi groups like Toldos Aharon and Toldos Avraham Yitzchak considered Chasidic?
February 2, 2012 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #849685kingdavidParticipantHere you go…
A
Alesk (from Olesko, Ukraine)
Anipoli (from Annopol, Ukraine)
Avritch (from Ovruch, Ukraine)
B
Baitch (from Biecz, Poland)
Bender (from Bender, Moldova)
Bertch (from Bircza, Poland)
Bia?ystok (from Bia?ystok)
Bialobrzeg (from Bia?obrzegi, Poland)
Bilgoray (from Bi?goraj, Poland)
Binding (From Elbing/Elbl?g, Poland)
Bluzhev (from B?a?owa, Poland)
Bikovsk (from Bikofsk)
Bohush (from Bohushi, Romania)
Bonia
Boslover
Botoshan (from Boto?ani, Romania)
Breslev from Uman
Brod (from Brody, Ukraine)
Brisdovitz (from Berezdivtsi, Ukraine)
Bucharest (from Bucure?ti, Romania)
Burshtin (from Burshtyn, Ukraine)
C
Chabad-Bobroisk (from Bobrujsk, Belarus)
Chabad-Kapust
Chabad-Liadi
Chabad-Nezhin
Chabad-Strashelye
Chadusha
Chernovitz (from Chernivtsi)
Cieszanow
Czortkow (from Chortkiv)
Chust (from Khust)
Cleveland
D
Deyzh (from Dej, Romania)
Debrecen (from Debrecen)
Dobromil (from Dobromyl, Ukraine)
Dombrova (from D?browa Tarnowska, Poland)
Drubitsh (from Drohobych, Poland)
Dzikov (from Tarnobrzeg, Poland)
E
Erlau (from Eger/Erlau, Hungary)
Etched (from Nagyecsed, Hungary)
F
Faltichan (from F?lticeni, Romania)
Frankfurt
G
Gorlitz (from Gorlice, Poland)
Gostynin (from Gostynin, Poland)
Gvodzitz (from Hvizdets)
H
Hornsteipel (from Hornostaypil’, near Chernobyl)
Huvniv (from Hivniv, Ukraine)
Husiatyn
K
Kaminka (from Kamianka-Buzka, Ukraine)
Kaminetz
Kunskvola (from Ko?skowola, Poland)
Karlihaz
Kashou
Kerestir (from Bodrogkeresztur, Hungary)
Khentshin (from Ch?ciny, Poland)
Kielce (from Kielce, Poland)
Kojdanov (from Koidanova, Belarus)
Komarno (from Komarno, Ukraine)
Kopyczynitz (from Kopychyntsi, Ukraine)
Korets (from Korets, Ukraine)
Koson (from Koson, Ukraine)
Kosov (from Kosiv, Ukraine)
Kotsk (from Kock, Poland)
Kozlov
Kozhnitz (from Kozienice, Poland)
Krasna
Krula
Kutna (Hasidic dynasty)
Kuzmir (from Kazimierz Dolny, near Warsaw)
L
?a?cut (from ?a?cut, Poland)
Lebina
Lechovitch (from Lyakhavichy, Belarus)
Leipnik (from Leipnik, Czech Republic)
Leipzig
Linitz
Liske
Lizhensk (from Le?ajsk, Poland)
Leva
Liozna
Lublin (from Lublin, Poland)
Lutsk (from Lutsk, Ukraine)
M
Madyer
Malachim
Margareten (from Marghita, Romania)
Mattersdorf (from Mattersburg, Austria)
Mezhbizh (from Medzhybizh), Ukraine; Also see Apter Rov
Mishkoltz (from Miskolc, Hungary)
Mogelnitz (from Mogielnica, Poland)
Manestrishtze
N
Nadvorna
Narol
Nadferli
Neshchiz (from Nesukhoyezhe, Ukraine)
Nikolsburg[disambiguation needed ] (from Mikulov/Nikolsburg)
Nitra (from Nitra/Nyitra)
O
Ostrof
P
Pashkan (from Pa?cani, Romania)
Philadelphia (from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania)
Piasetzne
Pilts (from Pilica[disambiguation needed ])
Pilzno
Pinsk (named for Pinsk, Belarus)
Pistin
Pishkivitcha
Pittsburgh (from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
Polonoye (from Polonne (Polonnoye), Volhynia)
Premishlan (from Peremyshliany, Ukraine)
Pshemishl (from Przemy?l, Poland)
Pshevorsk (from Przeworsk, Poland)
Pshiskhe (from Przysucha, Poland)
R
Radomsk (from Radomsko, Poland)
Radorztz
Radoshitz (from Radoszyce, Poland)
Radvil (from Radyvyliv, Ukraine)
Ribnitz (from Rybnitsa, Moldova or Transnistria)
Roman (from Roman, Romania)
Ropshitz (from Ropczyce, Poland)
Ruzhin (from Ruzhyn, Ukraine)
S
Sadovna (from Sadowne, Poland)
Sambur (from Sambir, Ukraine)
Sadigura (from Sadhora, Ukraine)
Sanz (from Nowy S?cz, Poland)
Serdahel (from Szerdahely)
Sassov (from Sasiv, Ukraine)
Savran
Senta Serbia
Seret (from Siret, Romania)
Shedlitz (from Siedlce, Poland)
Shepetivka from Shepetivka, Ukraine
Shotz (from Suceava, Romania)
Shidlovtza (from Szyd?owiec, Poland)
Shineva (from Sieniawa, Poland)
Shpikov (from Shpykiv, Ukraine)
Shpola (from Shpola, Ukraine)
Shtefanesht (from ?tef?ne?ti, Romania)
Sochatchov (from Sochaczew, Poland)
Stanislov (from Stanyslaviv, Ukraine)
Stepan (from Stepan, Ukraine)
Stichin (from Szczucin, Poland)
Stretin (from Stratin, Ukraine)
Strizhov
Sudilkov (from Sudylkiv, Ukraine)
Sulitz (from Suli?a, Romania)
T
Tenka (from Hungary?)
Tartakov (from Tartakiv, Ukraine)
Temishvar (from Timi?oara, Romania)
Tolna (from Talne, Ukraine)
Toldos Tzvi
Toltchva (from Tolcsva, Hungary)
Trisk (from Turiisk, Ukraine)
Tshakova (from Szczakowa, Poland)
Tzehlim (from Deutschkreutz, Austria)
U
Unsdorf
Ushpitzin (from O?wi?cim, Poland)
V
Vasloi (from Vaslui, Romania)
Vien (Rabbinical dynasty) (from Wien/Vienna)
Voidislav (from Wodzis?aw, Poland)
Volova (from Mizhhirya, Ukraine)
Vorka from Warka, Poland
Vulkan
Y
Yeruslav (from Jaros?aw, Poland)
Yoka
Z
Zablitov (Zabolotiv, Ukraine)
Zbarz (from Zbarazh, Ukraine)
Zhitomir (from Zhytomyr)
Zibov
Zidichov
Zinkov
Zlatipol (from Zlatopol)
Zlotchov (from Zolochiv)
Zolozitz
Zychlin
February 2, 2012 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #849686zahavasdadParticipantThat list is inaccurate
Some groups no longer exist due to the holocaust and some (SANZ) have split into several groups. Sanz is now Bobover, Klausenberg Israel, Klausenberg USA , Sanz-Gribov , and Sanz-Gorlitz
February 2, 2012 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #849687apushatayidParticipantBoston. Moshulu. Glogov. Tomashov. The list is probably as long as the list of towns and villages in all countries where chassidus and chassidim are found.
February 2, 2012 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #849688popa_bar_abbaParticipantGimmee a break. You just looked up a list of eastern european towns and copied and pasted. Most of those towns never had a Jew besides the “Moshke.”
February 2, 2012 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #849689a maminParticipantWOW!!! K.A.H. but you left out quite a bit that I can think of….
February 2, 2012 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #849690ED IT ORParticipantwoo what a list! I’m a misnagdir’r chossid!
February 2, 2012 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #849691Rav TuvParticipantPopa-Gimmee a break. You just looked up a list of eastern european towns and copied and pasted. Most of those towns never had a Jew besides the “Moshke.”
I don’t think Cleveland, Toldos Tzvi,Chabad, etc. are towns in Eastern Europe. Just sayin’
February 2, 2012 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #849692susheeMemberThe Yerushalmi’s are Perushim (i.e. Litvish). Even though they wear shtraimels, vaise zuken, and white yarmulkas.
February 2, 2012 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #849693midwesternerParticipantI thought Bender was from Far Rockaway! (That’s about as far as I had patience to read.)
February 2, 2012 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #849694Rav TuvParticipantAlso left out the Krummer Rebbe, the Treifer Rebbe, the Chazzer Rebbe and the mishuginer Rebbe. Very choshuve dynasties.
February 2, 2012 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #849695midwesternerParticipantFrankfurt and Kamenetz as Chssidic Rebbes?
Belz, Bobov, Satmar, Stolin, Ger, Munkacz, Skver, Vizhnitz, comprise 90% of today’s chassidim, and they’re not there.
What kind of joke is this list?
February 2, 2012 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #849696apushatayidParticipantA pretty bad one.
February 2, 2012 9:14 pm at 9:14 pm #849697Tora YidMemberBetween the US, EY, and Europe, Satmar has over 200,000 Chasidim.
February 2, 2012 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm #849698yungerman1ParticipantYou forgot to mention Spinka Rebbbe, and the Spinka Rebbe, and the Spinka Rebbe etc…
February 2, 2012 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #849699nfgo3MemberTo kingdavid:
1. Did you (i) pull this list out of your head, in alphabetical order, or (ii) find this list in a specific source? And if (ii) is the case, why would you not identify it so that the rest of us could benefit from it?
2. You forgot the Satmar. I suggest you stay out of Williamsburgh and Kiryas Joel.
February 2, 2012 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #849700midwesternerParticipantWell just in my list above, there are Bobov, Satmar, and Skver have 2 rebbes each, and Vizhnitz has 3. And there aren’t any Lubavitcher Rebbes today, and Dovid Hamelech’s list has 5 Chabads.
February 2, 2012 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #849701websterMembersushe- true, the Perushim are a non-Hasidic Yerushalmi group (descendents of the talmidim of the Gaon of Vilna), however not all Yerushalmim are Perushim. Many are in fact Hasidim including Toldos Aharon and Toldos Avrohom Yitzchok.
February 2, 2012 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #849702🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantmusser zoger – the Michigener Rebbe, isn’t he from Detroit?
February 2, 2012 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #849703Rav TuvParticipantHere is david hamelech’s source. see bottom of page.
February 3, 2012 4:27 am at 4:27 am #849705Ragachovers AssistantMemberI sent this list to someone, and he asked:
What happened to Belz, Bobov, Square, and Visnitz which are major chasidus?
February 3, 2012 5:33 am at 5:33 am #849706cherrybimParticipantIt’s interesting that the original Rebbe in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania was not called the Pittsburger Rebbe. His grandson who was born in Newark, NJ and lives in Ashdod, Israel has given himself the title of the Pittsburger Rebbe. His father was a Rebbe in Newark and lived in Pittsburgh briefly after the death of the original Rebbe; before relocating to Ashdod. The vast majority of Rebbes in the USA today are Yankees.
February 3, 2012 8:27 am at 8:27 am #849707moi aussiMemberDidn’t see Kretchnif and Machnovka on the list.
February 3, 2012 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm #849708Medium Size ShadchanMemberWhat a list!
Allow me to go off on a tangent- I envy them all! Theyve got a tiny fraction of 30ish year old girls going through Gehenom in singledom, as the Litvishe do.
Whatever the Rebbes are doing in that area, theyre doing it right! Without the help of Nasi. They dont need it.
February 3, 2012 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #849709yungerman1ParticipantFalsha Rebbe – not be confused with the Faltishaner Rebbe
Flatbushe Rebbe- not to be confused with the Buhusher Rebbe
Paya Rebbe
Yami Roov
February 3, 2012 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #849710Shticky GuyParticipantYou forgot to mention the Spinka Rebbbe, and the Spinka Rebbe, and the Spinka Rebbe
Lol. The story goes that at a recent Spinka Rebbe’s son’s chasuna they had to hire a bus and a minivan to get there… the bus for all the Spinka Rebbes and the minivan for all their chassidim… Truth is there are HUNDREDS of rebbes. Look in any of the weekly picture magazines to find names that are useful to be used during a vision test. But what’s the difference. What is a name already?
February 3, 2012 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm #849711Derech HaMelechMemberAnd,a related question – are the Yerushalimi groups like Toldos Aharon and Toldos Avraham Yitzchak considered Chasidic?
Those 2 groups happen to be chassidic. They both split from Shomrei Emunim. They would be Yerushalmi Chassidim. However, there are also
“Litvishe” Yerushalmis that are called Perushim. The original Perushim were talmidim of the Vilna Gaon who moved to E”Y.
February 3, 2012 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #849712squeakParticipantSimple answer. If you are chassidish then there is 1 Rebbe. If you are not, there are 0.
Ask an atheist how many gods there are. Ask a pagan. Ask a jew. QED
February 3, 2012 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #849713squeakParticipantNext question.. how many Avinu Malkeinus are there?
February 4, 2012 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #849714C
Chabad-Bobroisk (from Bobrujsk, Belarus)
Chabad-Kapust
Chabad-Liadi
Chabad-Nezhin
Chabad-Strashelye
Chadusha
Chernovitz (from Chernivtsi)
Cieszanow
Czortkow (from Chortkiv)
Chust (from Khust)
Cleveland
CREEDMOOR (from Creedmoor Psychiatric Center in Queens, NY)
The Boirye Oilamois meCreedmoor, so known because he actually creates Chassidim with addresses and Social Security numbers, who are accepted by the most prestigious social welfare agencies and insurance firms throughout the world, is one of the most under the influence Rebbes of today!
In all seriousness, that Wikipedia list is too detailed as it includes many chassidis’n that are long gone. Most of them disappeared during the churban, and most of their followers found their way to a larger chassidis from the same source (ie the Kotzker offshoots to Ger, Ujhil to Satmar, the Chabad offshoots back to Lubavitch, etc. Skvere has no one from Skvira, Ukraine left, and Satmar was a new chassidis before the war.) At least two errors – Nitra and Kashoi are not chassidish.
February 4, 2012 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm #849715Mishkoltz (from Miskolc, Hungary)
Nikolsburg[disambiguation needed ] (from Mikulov/Nikolsburg)
Nope :). Mishkoltz from Petah Tikva and Nikolsburg from Monsey and Boro Park. There never was a Chassidus in Mishkoltz. The Mishkoltzer Rebbe in Petah Tikva, who does great work and is very sincere, may be descended from a pre-war official rov of Mishkoltz, but he is the first Rebbe in his family tree.
The Nikolsburger Rebbes just took the name because they may be descendants of Reb Shmelke. However, there was no Nikolsburger Chassidus any more than there was a Mezhibuzher or Mezritcher Chassidus (those may exist today too for all I know).
February 5, 2012 10:55 am at 10:55 am #849716moi aussiMemberThe Boyaner Rebbe wasn’t mentioned yet, he’s marrying off his daughter on Feb 14 (Valentine’s day).
February 5, 2012 4:28 pm at 4:28 pm #849717The original poster posted only the section of the Wiki list that pertains to extinct or tiny chassidus’n. The first parts of the list include all of the major ones, except Creedmoor. There WAS an article on Chassidus Creedmoor in Wikipedia for almost 18 months until a moiser called attention to it.
February 5, 2012 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #849718OnlyTheTruthParticipantIt’s a true Story that happened many years a go. When smoking at Chasunah’s was more popular. A Rebbe was sitting at the head table of a wedding of the Daizsha family. the Rebbe said Daizsha Rebbe “Ir kent mir geben a Cigeretel?” Five hands with cigerets come flying his way.
February 5, 2012 9:14 pm at 9:14 pm #849719bygirl93Memberfirst of all you forgot Rachminstirske (the spelling of it is hard!)and thank you for the mention of Manestrishtze! yes! it does exist! it is real! second of all just wanted to point out that all chasidus stems from the baal shem tov! and the BS”T is a direct descendant of david hamelech- so its apropo that king david posted the list- (i couldnt resist that point :-))
February 5, 2012 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #849720Rachmistrivke :). That is a Twersky family Chassidus, from Reb Mottel Chernobyler. The other one I don’t know at all.
Skvere also comes from Chernobyl. I don’t know if Lipa is really still part of Skvere, but his clothing comes right from Chernobyl – AFTER the nuclear accident!
The Hungarian kanoim – Dushinsky, Toldos Aharon, Satmar, Pupa, Tosh and Erloi – are not really tied into the Baal Shem Tov (Satmar is connected to other Chassidus by marriage more than anything). They are closer to the Chasam Soifer in their hashkofoh, and the levush is more a way of showing they are sticking with the old ways.
February 5, 2012 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #849721popa_bar_abbaParticipantThe Hungarian kanoim – Dushinsky, Toldos Aharon, Satmar, Pupa, Tosh and Erloi – are not really tied into the Baal Shem Tov (Satmar is connected to other Chassidus by marriage more than anything). They are closer to the Chasam Soifer in their hashkofoh, and the levush is more a way of showing they are sticking with the old ways.
He said popa. Look everyone, he said popa. I am popa.
February 5, 2012 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #849722smartcookieMemberNo he didn’t. He said Pupa. You don’t want people to call you PUPA, do you?
February 5, 2012 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm #849723147ParticipantKingDavid left out:-
Bobov 48
Bobov 45
Satmar Aharon
Satmar Nehemiah
February 5, 2012 10:54 pm at 10:54 pm #849724yaakov doeParticipantThere is an infinite number of Chassidish Rebbes since almost every Rebbe’s son wants his own title. Kind of like the stars in the sky or grains of sand. There are even mutliples with the same title ie Satmar, Spinka, Bostoner.
February 5, 2012 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #849725ItcheSrulikMemberWho’s Satmar Nechemiah? Name sounds Tzioini
February 5, 2012 11:01 pm at 11:01 pm #849726haha Popa
147 – Satmar Nehemia? The 2 factions are the Aroinim (Rav Aron) and the Zalim (Rav Zalman Leib).
February 5, 2012 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm #849728koillel101Memberi think there are many that are only known to certain groups of people-like the people that daven in that shteibel
February 6, 2012 12:55 am at 12:55 am #849729That is true, Koillel. There are probably rabbonim with shtiblach and Chassidishe malbishim who are really chassidim of a major Chassidus but qualify as the Rebbes of some place long gone. There must be a shtibel with a Rebbe on every block of BP and even more in EY. The Stanislaver Rebbe is a mohel in London; I do not know that he has any Chassidim in the traditional sense although his shul is popular and he is a very well-respected mohel.
If you really want to give Chassidus a try, your best bet is Creedmoor :). Barring that, and if you don’t want Chabad or Breslov, I would look for a smaller, less established Chassidus that is open, like Mishkoltz or Pittsburgh in EY and I guess Boston or Reb Michel Twersky or perhaps Biala (Boro Park) in the US. The big ones, and the ones like Tosh where the Rebbe is aging, are just full of problems, ranging from corrupt gabboim and use of moisdos scams to succession fights.
If you want a brocho from a Rebbe, the best source now is probably not a Chassidishe rebbe but rather Rabbi David Abouhasira in Nahariya (grandson of Baba Sali ZYA). A brocho from the Tosh Rebbe is very worthwhile, but call ahead before you go up to Quebec especially in the winter; make sure the Rebbe is available. I do not know if the Amshinover Rebbe in EY gives brochos.
I am of course the Creedmoorer Rebbe’s gabbai and I receive all requests and send out all invoices for brochos.
February 6, 2012 2:45 am at 2:45 am #849730147ParticipantWho is better off:- Bobov & Satmar with 2 rebbes vying for the same position? or Lubavitch & Breslow with zero living Rebbes?
February 6, 2012 4:42 am at 4:42 am #849731cherrybimParticipantEveryone needs a Rebbe with a warm hand and smile.
February 6, 2012 6:57 am at 6:57 am #849732moi aussiMemberNovominsker Rebbe – Rabbi Yaakov Perlow
February 6, 2012 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #849734Does the Novominsker even wear Chassidishe levush? I have never seen a picture of him wearing anything any other rov on the Moetzes doesn’t wear. He certainly is a godol, but he seems to act as any Litvishe rosh yeshiva does. He does not have any Chassidim in the tradtional sense from what I recall.
February 6, 2012 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #849735Tora YidMemberNovominsk has a big Yeshiva. The Rebbe wears a shtraimel. He is a talmid of Yeshiva Chaim Berlin.
February 6, 2012 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #849736Tora YidMemberWhat does “Admor” stand for? And who uses that title other than Rebbes? (I noticed some Sefardishe Rabbonim also being referred to as Admor.)
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