Chofetz chaim says to bring Mashiach need to love everyone.

“The Chofetz Chaim says to bring Mashiach we need to love everyone.”

He obviously did not say what you imply, because there is a mitzva to hate certain evildoers, as Dovid haMelech says in Tehillim: “Halo misanecha Hashem esna…tachlis sina saneisim…”.

But sinas chinam is certainly wrong.

At the end of Shmiras HaLashon (Hilchos Rechilus 9:15), the Chofetz Chaim writes that the prohibitions against Lashon Hara and Rechilus do not apply to reshaim and kofrim and that it is, in fact, a mitzvah to mock such persons:

“מצוה לפרסם דעתם הכוזבת לעיני הכל ולגנותם, כדי שלא ילמדו ממעשיהם הרעים.”

“It is a mitzvah to make their false opinions public before all, and shame them so that others do not learn from their evil deeds.”

“החפץ חיים בהלכות לשון הרע כלל ח’ סעיף ה’ – אומר: “אותם האנשים שמכירם שיש בהם אפיקורסות מצווה לגנותם ולבזותם בין בפניהם ובין שלא בפניהם”.

ובהמשך- “אפיקורוס נקרא הכופר בתורה… ואפילו הוא אומר כל התורה כולה מן השמים חוץ מפסוק אחד…”

Yes. All Jews who are keeping torah and mitzvahs must love each other. There us no obligation to love open sinners.

I see that the concept of Ahavas Yisroel is still having a hard time finding its place here, after all of these years .

Ivory: Where is your source? The forefather of the Moshiach, Dovid Hamelech, transgressed both privately and befarhesiyah. He was called out, and he did teshuva. Were his subjects and those who came after not obliged to love him? We all transgress. Sometimes we do it because we think its right or justified, sometimes we are ashamed of it. But each one of us does it, openly and not. You would have us hate each other and ourselves. That is a miserable existence. I can’t presume like so many do, to know what hashem wants of us. But he didn’t create us for misery.

somejewiknow: How do you know someone hates hashem, unless they actually say “I hate hashem?” The truth is you don’t know. And let’s say they did make that statement. Even then, the Truth is, you still don’t know. You don’t know anything about them, you don’t know anything about their losses, or challenges, or upbringing, You don’t know the balance sheet they may have full of Mitzvos and sacrifice. You don’t know what tzaar might have brought them to that statement – speak to a survivor of the Shoah, and you might begin to get a clue. Actually, you may know nothing at all, except the certainty of your own kedusha. As for loving reshayim; We say in the Hagodoh every single year that the rosho is at his father’s seder table. His father might be justly angered by his son, but he loves him enough to have him at his seder. Who are you to define loving the rosho (who is your brother, or neighbor, or fellow Jew) as sinas chinom? And even in the CC quoted by ujm, he didn’t advise one to hate the kofer or apikorus, rather, in the specific circumstances described, to mock their kefira.

In a time of such danger for the Jewish people, and with such a revealed need for achdus, maybe, just maybe, you might consider letting the Dayon HoEmes be the one to judge Jews, rather than arrogating that responsibility for yourself.

At the end of Shmiras HaLashon (Hilchos Rechilus 9:15), the Chofetz Chaim writes that the prohibitions against Lashon Hara and Rechilus do not apply to reshaim and kofrim and that it is, in fact, a mitzvah to mock such persons

UJM,

I would be very careful to research when and with whom these halachos apply.

Eliyahu Hanovi and Yeshayohu Hanovi were punished for speaking disparagingly about Jewish IDOL WORSHIPERS (the real kind) – because “אין הקב”ה רוצה במי שאומר דילטורייא על ישראל”.
(שהש”ר פ”א, ו (א). רש”י ישעי’ ו, ו. ועוד)

The Rambam writes that if such great tzaddikim were punished, how much more so a קל מקלי העולם who dares to condemn so many Yidden as פושעים ורשעים וגויים ופסולי עדות וכופרים בה’ אלהי ישראל.
(אגרת השמד פ”ב)

I would err on the side of speaking positively about Jews.

Menachem: I’m not sure what you’re objecting to. I simply quoted the Chofetz Chaim verbatim. Are you disagreeing with the Chofetz Chaim? If so, is it your own personal disagreement or do you have an opposing death of equal stature of the Chofetz Chaim?

The Chofetz Chaim is telling us we must identify reshoyim and kofrim, in order to treat them as the Chofetz Chaim prescribes in his above quotations.

Menachem: I’m not sure what you’re objecting to. I simply quoted the Chofetz Chaim verbatim. Are you disagreeing with the Chofetz Chaim?

I was very clear:
“I would be very careful to research when and with whom these halachos apply.”

Because many GREAT tzaddikim were punished in the past for speaking negatively about IDOLATERS.

We must be very careful in the proper way to apply these halachos, and to whom.

@menachem-shmei
one must be equally careful in both directions. remeber, the bais hamikdash was destroyed from sinas chinam, and there is no greater sinas chinam that loving reshayim and showing your baseless hatred of Hashem

@menachem-shmei
ahavas rashayim is achzariyus, an inherently bad middah. it is NOT a chessed.

Somejew,

Question: Why can’t we use iron on the מזבח? We are told it’s because iron is a tool of death. But isn’t it used for the killing of bad people? How can death itself be something bad, sometimes it is a very good a necessary thing?

Another question: Dovid Hamelech was not able to build the Beis Hamikdash because דם לרוב שפחת – Hashem didn’t want His house built by someone whose hands were filled with blood.
But wasn’t it the blood of wicked enemies of the Jews who deserved to be killed? What could negative about this?

@menachem-shmei
just keep the clear halachos. you are the one trying to wield the tool of achzuryous in your love of reshayim, the opposite of “ahaves yisroel”

it’s crooked hashkafos like what you are pushing, against troas moshe, that destroyed the bais hamikdash and continue to destroy the social fabric of klal yisroel.

it’s people like you who hate neturei karta in the name of “ahavas yisroel”, because you love the kofrim so much you will shecht kosher yidden.

Somejew, you haven’t answered my question. Is killing intrinsically bad or not?

Menachem:

Are you accusing the Chofetz Chaim of encouraging Klal Yisroel to play with fire when he tells Klal Yisroel מצווה לגנותם ולבזותם בין בפניהם ובין שלא בפניהם”.