July 24, 2023 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm #2210336
Chris Christie is a Republican, which most Jews seem to embrace.
He doesn’t dwell on transgenderism, same-sex marriage etc that the Democrats embrace.
He asks very pointed question regarding that modern-day false messiah.
He wants to know why , after 4 years, Trump only build 54 miles of wall, and where was Mexico paying for that
He wants to know why he raised America’s debt ceiling by trillions of dollars, when he promised to cut that.
Speaking of broken promises, Trump lies and lies and lies.
Trump still believes the election was ‘stolen’. Actually he doesn’t believe it, just lies about it…
I watched Christie being interviewed on ‘Face the Nation’ and I’ll be darned if I understand why Jews overwhelmingly want a demagogue , con-artist, liar, lecher and sore loser – when they can vote a Republican, who doesn’t believe in the Democrats’ woke garbage and don’t have to deal with an indicted former president, who most likely will end up in jail..
Christie’s words were extremely logical. That’ what we need in the White House
Go Christie, go !!July 24, 2023 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #2210591ujmParticipant
Christie is a social liberal.
Christie was first against Trump, then he was for Trump and now he’s against Trump. He can’t seem to make to his mind.
He’s good for a liberal state but not for the nation.July 24, 2023 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #2210592yeshivaguy45Participant
yechiell, is there a reason why you started another thread on this? You could have continued the thread on this topic that you started.July 24, 2023 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #22106062scentsParticipant
Probably because of why the rest of the population is not thrilled with him.
If he shut the GW bridge just to get back at some politicians, imagine what he would do if he had more powers than that.July 24, 2023 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #2210602
yeshivaguy – why does that bother you so much? how about discussing the new topics i brought up?July 24, 2023 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #2210618
Yeshiva Guy I was going to ask the same question, you beat me to it,
PS the surgeon who did CC gastric bypass is used by a lot of frum olam, I don’t know if that is reason enough to vote for him.July 24, 2023 4:09 pm at 4:09 pm #2210626CTLAWYERParticipant
During Christie’s first term as Governor Mrs. CTL (A”H) was very impressed with him and spoke with me saying that if he ran for President we should consider supporting him. Unlike me, she was registered unaffiliated.
That ended with Bridgegate when he showed his true colors. Then the support of Trump and Beachgate made him forever banned in our home.
The days of a sane or with reason Republican are gone. None of the current candidates could get my voteJuly 24, 2023 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #2210628
What’s front with Hutchinson (from a democrat standpoint)?July 24, 2023 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #2210629AviraDeArahParticipant
Why is a standard, run of the mill corrupt politician banned in a home? Is clinton(mr or mrs), biden, etc…any less corrupt? Why do we busy ourselves with the character of goyim? They have no Torah, they’re in positions of power, so they are almost certain to be corrupted…our job is to vote for whoever will legislate as close to the Torah/our interests. Unless a goy is mekabel the 7 mitzvos, why do we think they’re “good”? Is there a “good” person without torah values? Why does this need to be explained to frum people?July 24, 2023 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #2210633
“after 4 years, Trump only build 54 miles of wall, and where was Mexico paying for that”
And all of that wall was where there was already pre-existing fence, so Trump didn’t actually add an inch. He replaced some fence with steel slats which don’t functionally seem much better. All just smoke and mirrors that unfortunately a big chunk of his base continues to fall for.
In any case, if Christie’s only qualification is pointing out Trumps failures, there should be plenty of other candidates similarly qualified and without any past scandals.July 24, 2023 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #2210634smerelParticipant
There is little reason to rally around anyone who doesn’t look like they will win the nomination. Frum people only rally around primary candidates in situations where their vote may actually make a difference about who will win the primary. This is not one of those times.
(There was a fundraiser for Nikki Halley in Deal this Sunday but if she wouldn’t have had close ties with the frum community way before she decided to run that never would have happened)
The Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office dropped the complaint against Christie, because they did not believe that an official misconduct charge can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The government investigation conducted later also reached the conclusion that Christie had no prior knowledge of the incidentJuly 24, 2023 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #22106362scentsParticipant
Regarding the ban you mentioned, is it that if he were to knock on your front door, he would be sent away? Or is the ban in another sense?
Moreover, it appears that most politicians who operate on a national level tend to be self-serving and engage in bad behaviors. Our current president, in particular, seems to have involved himself in various questionable activities, utilizing his elected position for personal financial gain.July 24, 2023 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #2210637akupermaParticipant
Christie has no chance of winning. His whole campaign has focused on alienating Trump’s base (the populist base, often called the “deplorables”, who would abstain rather than vote for Christie).
To win, a Republican needs to unite the Republican party and appeal to independents and non-WOKE Democrats. While DeSantis has already alienated the populist wing, both Scott and Haley, both with good Reaganite/Tea Party backgrounds, are avoiding burning bridges to the MAGA wing of the party (though their best chance of winning the nomination is for Trump to drop out and endorse/anoint one of them).July 24, 2023 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #2210654
“What’s front with Hutchinson (from a democrat standpoint)?“
I meant what’s wrongJuly 24, 2023 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm #2210671CTLAWYERParticipant
The ban was from the list of candidates who might possibly receive our votes in the future.
If he knocked on our door, I would invite him him, offer light refreshment and hear what he wanted to say. He seems to be an affable chap and if he traveled all the way to see me, I would not turn him awayJuly 24, 2023 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm #2210689
“While DeSantis has already alienated the populist wing”
He never did anything to isolate Trump’s base; Trump just ordered his followers to hate DeSantis and they did so. He’ll do the same thing with the other names you mention once they’re also threats.
If anything, it seems like DeSantis is isolating all the sane people by pandering to the populists lately.July 25, 2023 1:54 am at 1:54 am #2210696Sam KleinParticipant
Cause he’s always screaming against Trump who’s on the same republican side as him and is Israel best friend so would you go against Trump and Eretz Yisroel?July 25, 2023 7:20 am at 7:20 am #2210715SKD2128Participant
I think we should rally around who’s most likely to win the republican primaries. It is also a good idea to wait and see. Keep in mind things change very quickly in these elections there is still a chance someone new will jump in.
As for the candidates, maybe look at Vivek Ramaswamy. I find him to be very respectable, he is anti woke and doesn’t seem like he will alienate trump voters.July 25, 2023 7:20 am at 7:20 am #2210716akupermaParticipant
Neville Chaim Berlin: Christie is constantly criticizing Trump. Scott (and some others), are following the “old rule” attributed to Reagan, “Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.” A Republican who wishes to win in November 2024 must have Trump’s support, and you don’t get that through ad hominem attacks on Trump. Indeed, there are signs of a backlash building against the nastiness of both the MAGA and WOKE camps, suggesting that the way to win the national election is to stick to respectful disagreement with one’s opponent instead of insulting and mocking those one disagrees with.July 25, 2023 9:34 am at 9:34 am #2210762Shimon NodelParticipant
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Also, because he’s a big fat loserJuly 25, 2023 1:03 pm at 1:03 pm #2210858
They tried to rally around him, the girth was way too big and they had to give upJuly 25, 2023 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #2210946
I was waiting for someone to make a fat jokeJuly 25, 2023 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #2210976yungermanSParticipant
Chris Christie just finished his Doctors checkup appointment and was told he currently weighs 425 pounds, so he asked the doctor if he can change it over to American dollars so he can pay the doctor for his appointment with it.July 25, 2023 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #2210980
a medical question – does too much fat leads to think skin (thru stretching)? Then his bridge affair can be written off as a medical issue, and he is a perfectly rounded candidate indeed.July 25, 2023 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #2210981
thin skin, I thinkJuly 26, 2023 1:29 pm at 1:29 pm #2211144Yserbius123Participant
The GW is my answer. I supported him up until that cruel childish piece of revenge which severely inconvenienced pretty much all of Rockland County just to get back at one man.
Then he closed the beaches during Corona and took his family on vacation to the Jersey Shore. I can’t even imagine what he would do as president.July 26, 2023 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #2211355
Your last paragraph is ridiculous. He wasn’t Governer during the pandemic. Murphy was. You mean the State shutdown. He didn’t close the beaches. There was no budget to keep them open. He didn’t go to the Shore. He went to his own house on Island Beach. The media didn’t do their jobs on him. Ever. They wouldn’t have known about Bridgegate if not for the whistleblower.July 26, 2023 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #2211397
How anyone can compare Bridgegate to the Jan 6 insurrection that almost destroyed our democracy, is beyond belief.July 26, 2023 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #2211420
yechiel, not sure where you live, but if you feel that a hundred people walking into Congress without weapons almost destroyed your democracy, you need to either move to a less fragile state or drink some herb waterJuly 27, 2023 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #2211455
Always..As..Q – just one point (the rest is too obvious to answer): a noose to hang Mike Pence – is that a weapon or a toy? Duh !July 27, 2023 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm #2211584
yechiell, we just witness a very minor attempt at a rebellion in Russia – that involved heavy weapons, shooting a couple of military planes – and even that was a joke. For whatever reason, Congress and DC mayor decided not to protect themselves against an angry crowd. Whatever position you take on all these issues, there was no threat to democracy except by people who are using it as an excuse to curtail civil liberties. Ever heard of Reichstag fire?July 28, 2023 12:19 am at 12:19 am #2211598
“a noose to hang Mike Pence – is that a weapon or a toy? Duh !”
A toy. For some reason I feel like you wanted the other answer.July 28, 2023 12:23 am at 12:23 am #2211609
Your completely wrong here. Just because democracy overcame Jan. 6, it doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a threat to democracy.
Hundreds of people have been sentenced for entering the Capitol. Get your facts somewhere near the target.
Some factions came armed to the teeth with battle plans. The Capitol was thoroughly trashed. Look up the details.
The Wagner Group’s march on Moscow is still really sketchy. I would love some real information. But you seem to be allergic.
Everyone underestimated the threat. The Mayor did not want a repeat of the previous summer. With a little less luck, there would have been some dead congressmen. No comparison to Bridgegate.July 28, 2023 12:38 am at 12:38 am #2211621
All the Republican candidates should be pointing out Trump’s failures. But they are not. And it’s mind boggling. The Republican Party has real leadership issues. A bunch of phony alphas that are exposed as wimps. McConnell seems to be the only leader. And he closes the curtains before he does any actual leadership.
It seems like the Republican base is motivated by one thing: electing losers.
I wish it wasn’t true. But the primary history is extensive.July 28, 2023 12:38 am at 12:38 am #2211618Shalom-al-IsraelParticipant
First of all, C.C. doesn’t seem to have much chance of winning, as of now.July 28, 2023 7:56 am at 7:56 am #2211615
Christie is a persona cult Republican, just like Trump. You have to explain why we should take one against the other if there are other options.July 28, 2023 7:56 am at 7:56 am #2211617
Hutchinson is a real Conservative. Almost no democrats would pick his policies. Most republicans won’t either.
The choices are far out liberal, liberal, slightly moderate, fake conservative, or completely far out and fake without getting around to any policies.
Any actual conservative get’s nowhere.July 28, 2023 7:56 am at 7:56 am #2211626
Insulting Trump is the wrong move. We all know how he will react.
The other candidates should be pointing out that he failed all his objectives as well as the pandemic. And then he had the nerve to not have any platform for the 2020 election.July 30, 2023 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #2212003moishekapoiehParticipant
Again, one username per customerAugust 23, 2023 11:27 am at 11:27 am #2218821
I’m rooting for you, Cristie – don’t let me down !August 23, 2023 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #2218909
Moishekapoieh has more than one username
Figures, he is a trump hater so he probably voted twice too 😜August 23, 2023 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #2218888
Give it a restAugust 23, 2023 11:35 pm at 11:35 pm #2219026Sam KleinParticipant
As a frum yid
Instead of voting for yoshke Chris Christie why don’t you vote for Jew Jewsie? This way there’s at least a chance of your vote winningAugust 24, 2023 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm #2219134
sam klein – very funny, sort ofAugust 24, 2023 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #2219354CholentBeansParticipant
TITLE: WHY CANT JEWS RALLY AROUND HIM
ANSWER lol he’s actually big enough to have all jews rally “around” himAugust 25, 2023 10:02 am at 10:02 am #2219675GadolhadorahParticipant
GWB, GWB, GWB (and lying about it)August 25, 2023 11:36 am at 11:36 am #2219706Menachem ShmeiParticipant
It’s surprising that it’s actually accepted to bash a political candidate due to his weight. Whatever.
It’s nice that Christie is spending all his time attacking Trump for not caring about the country and making this a personal fight, but in doing so, Christie sort of gives off the same impression of himself.
As it says in Tanya: המתאבק עם מנוולל מתנוול גם כןAugust 25, 2023 11:39 am at 11:39 am #2219718
Mexico will pay for the Wall, Mexico will pay for the Wall, Mexico will pay for the Wall (and lying about it)August 25, 2023 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #2219808
Gadolhadorah doesn’t like trump either
I don’t see your pointAugust 25, 2023 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #2219804GadolhadorahParticipant
Beast of a Dude….like Trump, who lies about everything, including the hilarious advance filing last night with the court that he weighs only 215 lb and his hair is “Strawberry Blonde”. He was desperate to avoid having the Sheriff’s deputies weigh him in as they do with most of those being arrested and processed at the jail.
If you think body-shaming is funny, I’ll send you a list of rabbonim and askanim who are obese by medical standards so you can start posting jokes about them as well.
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