October 22, 2009 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #669393
Fair enough. We’ll have a mikvah on premises.
With all these hiddurim, each shirt will cost about $450.October 22, 2009 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #669394
mayb…October 22, 2009 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #669395
I took a tour of a shmura matza bakery once. Before they set the time and mixed the flour and water, all the employees yelled out, “L’shem mitzva matzah.”
So I think it would be appropriate before cutting the material, stitching it, pressing it, etc., it would appropriate for all the employees to yell, “L’shem mitzva chultzah lavanah.”October 23, 2009 12:52 am at 12:52 am #669396
haifa girl-im starting2 agree..i like this idea.October 23, 2009 3:38 am at 3:38 am #669397
wait! socks need to match each other? yikes! (I guess that is why women wear tights…)
skunks, penguins and prisoners all wear black and white. hmmm… sounds like one of those rhymes from kindergarten. What’s black and white and red all over?
A penguin eating dinner?
A skunk blushing?
a zebra on roller skates?
NO! A yeshiva guy holding a gemara!October 23, 2009 4:02 am at 4:02 am #669398
Black, White and Red all over?
That would be a yeshiva guy who has his name on the list of 15 shadchanim.October 23, 2009 5:29 am at 5:29 am #669399
The following post was written earlier.
jphone: You might be on to a SUPER IDEA! It just needs some more homework.
1) You will have to make sure that they toiveled in the mikvah togetherwith the cotton they use.
2) The worker must wear white shirts themselves,(or it would be a Stirah)
3) The starch they use, must be made from wheat that had Shmirah Bi’shas Ketzirah.
4)Two months before Pesach, the should kasher the machines & start using potato starch.
5)All products should be made L’ishmah, ( also saying the L’sheim Yichud)
6) If someone gets a stain, (other than mayonnaise or hummus, like chrein, he should
carry a spare white shirt, lest s/o accuses him of wearing colored c”v, for;
1) he may lose his Shidduch
2) be Oiver Lifnei Iveir
3) get kicked out of BMG etc..
4) all of the aboveOctober 26, 2009 11:12 am at 11:12 am #669400
I would just like to thank everyone that answered my post. I found this forum slightly contraversial but enlightening all the same. (And the humor was definitly appreciated!)October 26, 2009 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #669401
I am still in shock that this is an actual thread. This is the problem with society today that we base our judgment of people solely on the exterior. We would rather run to make a shidduch with the “yeshivish” guy wearing a hat and jacket to mincha but on his cell phone the whole time rather than the guy davening so ehrlich but he wears a colored shirt. Where have our morals gone? When calling for information on a boy, our questions should be does he learn well? Is he a good friend? not what color his shirt is or what company makes it. Its very nice to put on a good show to the world but how about not fooling yourself.October 26, 2009 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #669402
useurbarin – A friend of mine belongs to a shidduch group. It’s a bunch of women who get together and try to help each other make shidduchim for their children and others. Some time back, they had a meeting where one of the woman was presenting her “notes.” She had just married off her last daughter and had notebooks filled with information about different boys. I was invited to the meeting as I am a quick typist and would be able to type up notes.
I heard almost no mention of midos. I did hear, however, whether each boy wore colored shirts and trimmed his beard. (Both of those are no-nos.)
I didn’t say anything during the meeting, but afterwards I did mention to my friend how disgusted I was that they seemed to care more about externalities than midos. She agreed that midos were important, but didn’t seem to think there was anything wrong with the way the information about the boys was presented.October 26, 2009 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #669403
Haifagirl, google CSI:shidduchim .October 26, 2009 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #669404
Haifagirl- Yes I agree that there is nothing essentially wrong with asking those kind of questions, there is something wrong if those are the top priorities and the “deal-breakers”.October 26, 2009 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #669405
tzippi: I’ve seen it. It’s great. And unfortunately, so true.October 27, 2009 4:05 am at 4:05 am #669406
Another crucial shidduch question. “Does he shower more often than he says yaaleh viyavo?”October 27, 2009 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #669407
How does he shower? If he showers with an umbrella, he saves time drying off so he can get (back) to learning quicker.
;October 27, 2009 2:45 pm at 2:45 pm #669408
No, no! He showers before every musaf, but for Yale Veyavo he uses soap as well.October 27, 2009 3:14 pm at 3:14 pm #669409
sammygol: is he extra makpid during the 9 days?October 28, 2009 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #669413
I believe there is a heter for a blue shirt. But it has to be worn within the Eruv in Brooklyn, while the siren is blowing in Baltimore and only if there’s no mixed dancing.October 28, 2009 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #669414
Enough of this Blue Shirt! 🙂October 28, 2009 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #669415
i personally think that blue shirts should only be allowed on guys with blue eyesOctober 28, 2009 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #669416
oh so we can color coordinate eyes w/ shirts…i like that idea!October 28, 2009 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #669417
YEAH! and the pants should match the hair color!October 28, 2009 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm #669418
but only if their hair is black! we’ve est. that only dark colored pants should be worn. Maybe they can match their socks or cufflinks to their hair??October 28, 2009 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm #669419
Forget the shirt, as long as one LOOKS frum!October 29, 2009 12:28 am at 12:28 am #669420
“Now Israel loved Joseph more than all his children, because he was the son of his old age: and he made him a coat of many colours.”
If a colored shirt was good enough for Joseph, it should be good enough for us.October 29, 2009 12:39 am at 12:39 am #669421
Unfortunately, precisely it ISN’T good enoughOctober 29, 2009 2:44 am at 2:44 am #669422
lol look what happened 2 Joseph and his colored shirt…October 29, 2009 3:29 am at 3:29 am #669423
Lavan was called Lavan because he got the white shirts. Yaakov got the colored sheep. Hard to make white shirts from colored sheep.
The Shlah says that one should have a special white shirt for Shabbos. Mashma the rest of the week one should not wear white.October 29, 2009 3:38 am at 3:38 am #669424
Jothar – “The Shlah says that one should have a special white shirt for Shabbos.”
Where does he say that?October 29, 2009 4:08 am at 4:08 am #669425
The Elya Rabba says that the Rabanan in the time of the Gemara wore white garments on Shabbos.
The Kitzur Shlah (Siman 135) and The Mateh Moshe (Siman 414) say to wear white on Shabbos.
The Aruch Hashulchan (Siman 260:1) says that today, wearing a white shirt on Shabbos suffices.
The MaHaram Chagiz (Siman 543) says that wearing white on Shabbos is a Tikkun (rectification) for Aveiros related to Arayos.December 7, 2009 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #669426
WHAT THE BLEEP DOES THE COLOR OF YOUR SHIRT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! SERIOUSLY!!! its a serious problem! people have become so caught up with their perception of what is right…its scary! i know people who if they see a guy in a colored shirt smoking they say “bum!” white shirt? “oh he’s just taking a break” its ridiculous! the color of your shirt means nothing about who you are. you can have a complete menuval in a white shirt, and the best bochur in (well, if he was lakewood he’d be wearing white…no?:D) chofetz chaim;D wearing a colored shirt! why would it even enter your mind that it should be assur?!? do you not wear a tie on shabbos?!? is it plain black?!? its become a game of perception. you are percieved as a ben torah if you wear a white shirt, and a bum if you dont. frankly its disgusting! like many people above have mentioned…back in the day EVERYONE WORE COLORED SHIRTS!!! COLORED SUITS…COLORED HATS…!!! WERE THEY BUMS???December 7, 2009 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #669427
bombmaniac, don’t hold back, tell us what you really think!!!! (I happen to agree with you 100%).
“lol look what happened 2 Joseph and his colored shirt… “
Yes, but clearly Yaakov Avinu saw nothing wrong in the wearing of non-white garments, and he followed Taryag Mitzvos.December 8, 2009 1:56 am at 1:56 am #669428
Perhaps the white shirt should be reserved for Shabbos, Yom Tov and weddings…
This gets critical in the summer in certain cities where it is too hot to wear a jacket or suit.
If you eat chulent during the week, it loses its specialness for Shabbos.
Some people need to wear white shirts for their jobs. Then they need to find another way to make the Shabbos dress special.December 8, 2009 5:48 am at 5:48 am #669429
oomis: :D:D:D ROTFLOL!!! its just the sheer stupidity and narrow-mindedness that would lead to the idea that colored shirts would be assur…to come to such a conclusion takes real talent 😀
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