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November 30, 2021 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #2036143VHere RebbeParticipant
I’m sure everyone is aware of the story that has come to light today about the concert in Israel and the mixed dancing. If not see here https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/2036053/poretz-geder-frum-concert-in-yerushalayim-devolves-into-mixed-dancing-affair.html
This really brings to light the issue with these mixed seeting events. They are dangerous b’ruchnius to an extreme extent. These types of events are problematic on many levels, and it is beyond me how anyone thinks that events with mixed seeting should be advertised to the frum community. The singer at the event has stated (and I paraphrase) that he wasn’t aware of the dancing and is working to make sure nothing like this happens again. The only way to assure this is to keep seeing at these events separate.November 30, 2021 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm #2036206philosopherParticipant
The singer stated that he wasn’t aware of the mixed dancing yet had videos on his page of it.
For years there was mixed seating, called “family seating” at concerts here in the US. I think it’s wrong halachically however there was no dancing ever. So what changed ? The music is goyish, period. It brings light headedness, goyishkeit, holelos and tztilustkeit.November 30, 2021 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #2036291
But anyways Reb eliezer (and others too) brought up a good point, how was there a concert in Yerushalayim if there was a gezeirah and how was there no Kol koreih against it?November 30, 2021 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #2036290
I totally agree 100% with philosopher
Additionally there was a comment posted on the main site that asked “what should [he] done? Walk off the stage?
The answer is yes! There was a different concert that mbd gave where someone was smoking and he told the person to stop and wouldn’t continue until it was stopped
editedNovember 30, 2021 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #2036359Reb EliezerParticipant
I saw that the Kalever did not allow a wedding to take place without him being present to make sure that there was no mixed dancing.November 30, 2021 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #2036354
What did I write that it got edited? He done isn’t grammatically correct either (if it was a grammatical problem)
Not a problem, I just edited the name out for those who don’t read the news page and are not aware of who it is. Didn’t mean to worry you. You are still a 5 star poster.November 30, 2021 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #2036351AviraDeArahParticipant
It’s a chov gamur on any entertainer to make sure that such things don’t happen. We know that there are people who would behave this way anyway, but if it happens under our watch, we are held accountable for facilitating itNovember 30, 2021 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #2036348Reb EliezerParticipant
I posted this at the site:
Restrictions against music at weddings even existed outside Eretz Yisroel. In the 19th century, the Maharam Shik of Chust in the Ukraine ordered all those who listened to him (which did not include everyone in his community as the Haskalah was on the rise) to not take musicians at weddings. He feared that the levity induced by music might lead to mixed dancing (Likutei Mahari’ch).November 30, 2021 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #2036388
Thanks mod (29?) 😊
That’s true however it’s more of a problem in ירושליםDecember 1, 2021 9:55 am at 9:55 am #2036539Shimon NodelParticipant
When I was in yeshiva in e”y I’d pull down any poster for mearas hamachpela concerts whenever I happened to see one.December 2, 2021 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm #2037424Zaphod BeeblebroxParticipant
Look at it from a different perspective, I heard a ton of shidduchim got made that night!😂December 2, 2021 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #2037476AviraDeArahParticipant
A marriage built on such a foundation is unsteady at bestDecember 2, 2021 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #2037487VHere RebbeParticipant
Does the singer get to collect the Shadchanus?December 2, 2021 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #2037529🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Is that your brocha to the couple? Or are you just overstepping a bit?December 3, 2021 1:21 pm at 1:21 pm #2037760Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
One matronah tried that in an argument w/ R Akiva in SotahDecember 3, 2021 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #2037777GadolhadorahParticipant
“When I was in yeshiva in e”y I’d pull down any poster for mearas hamachpela concerts whenever I happened to see one..”
Were you also the guy who spray painted all the Egged buses carrying ads depicting women who weren’t wearing burquas??? I’m sure your rabbonim were kvelling over your ruchniyus
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