September 6, 2012 1:55 pm at 1:55 pm #604794L. NormansonMember
Beware 53rd st corner 18th ave is a favorite spot for 66th precinct cops. Just got a cell phone ticket there this morning. Pulled out of a spot on 53rd – made a right turn on 18 – while preparing my headset – I saw the flashing lights… Forewarned is forearmed!September 6, 2012 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #895686
What did you get a ticket for?September 6, 2012 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #895687WolfishMusingsParticipant
What did you get a ticket for?
Just got a cell phone ticket
… presumably for using it while driving.
The WolfSeptember 6, 2012 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #895688TheGoqParticipant
I agree with the op’s position that you should always follow the laws of the land no matter where you are, but seriously you were probably already on the phone while “preparing” your headset you did something wrong and got nabbed next time don’t break the rules.
They are not preying they are doing their job protecting the lawful folks from law breakers like yourself.September 6, 2012 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #895689yaakov doeParticipant
If you were operating a car and using the cell phone it was a well deserved ticket.September 6, 2012 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm #895690The little I knowParticipant
I sympathize with you about getting caught, but that is expected – for good reason. Having seen so many people driving irresponsibly while talking on phones, I am frightened. It’s bad enough that there is a horrible percentage of drivers who are not capable of driving safely (underage, overage, under influence of alcohol, drugs, or medications, or distracted with the electronic gadgets such as CD players and radios and GPS). Now we should tolerate drivers being completely uninvolved in driving because they’re on the phone?
The area of 53rd Street & 18th Avenue is jam packed with kids. Many families with young children live in the neighborhood. There is Viznitz Yeshiva right behind you. Yagdil Torah (Ger) one block to your right. Stolin one block to your left. The slightest distraction can ch”v cost a child’s life. I’d be happy if you beat the ticket but learn a lesson. But I’m glad you got caught.September 7, 2012 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #8956912scentsParticipant
Although I occasionally speed above the speed limit. However I never do so when I am in an area in which people (especially children) are.
This might be off the topic, however is anyone familiar with the law regarding having a RADAR DETECTOR in NY?September 7, 2012 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #895692
Radar detectors are legal in NY.September 7, 2012 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #895693Sam2Participant
R’ Elyashiv says that one who talks on a cell phone while driving is a Rodef and that it’s Muttar to kill him to stop the car.September 7, 2012 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #895694yungerman1Participant
Sam2- I hope you are joking. But if you are not- I disregard most things that are said in the name of R’ Elyashiv, especially when it sounds a bit over the top as this does.September 7, 2012 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm #895695
Sam: So I can kill all those girls I see talking ‘n driving?September 7, 2012 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #895696REALISTMember
1. 2SCENTS: While detectors are permitted in NY, radar ‘jammers’ are not.
2. If 2scents was permitted to go ‘off topic’ a bit, I would like to as well.
PLEASE, FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR CHILDREN (AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE INNOCENT DRIVER) DO NOT YAK ON THE PHONE WITH YOUR HEAD COCKED TO ONE SIDE TO HOLD THE PHONE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PUSHING YOUR CARRIAGE OUT (TO BEGIN CROSSING THE STREET) AS A LITMUS TEST TO SEE IF THE COAST IS CLEAR!!!
RECENTLY, IT’S GOTTEN WORSE AS THEY ARE TEXTING INSTEAD OF TALKING.September 7, 2012 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #895697I can only tryMember
The little I know–
Very well put.
The last paragraph of an article (on a competing frum site) describing Rav Elyashiv’s statement states:
“When pressed for further explanation, Rav Elyashiv reportedly explained that the driver does not actually have a din of a rodef, but is very close to being a rodef.“September 7, 2012 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #895698The FrumguyParticipant
In which shtieble were they “preying”? I hope they made up the minyan.September 7, 2012 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #895699TheGoqParticipant
I was walking down the street yesterday and someone walking towards me was texting he looked up like 10 seconds before we met but still put his head back down to text and if i had not spoken up he would have slammed right into me.September 7, 2012 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #895700HaLeiViParticipant
Sam, but is it Muttar Lehatzil Bimemono?September 7, 2012 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #895701Sam2Participant
ICOT and Yungerman: This is published Bishmo by his son-in-law in Chashukei Chemed (I believe the Shabbos one). I think it’s reliable. He says someone who causes an accident while talking and driving is Pattur to pay because Kim Lei Bid’raba Minei.
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