February 1, 2012 12:37 am at 12:37 am #601857
What do you think of the captain of the ship that went down recently(reminds me of titanic-inside joke)? Should a captain leave his ship in a dangerous situation or stick with it? Also should women and children be saved before the men? I’d appreciate a torah perspective though all opinions are welcome.February 1, 2012 1:00 am at 1:00 am #848953susheeMember
The halacha, as stated in Shulchan Aruch, says you save men first.February 1, 2012 1:29 am at 1:29 am #848954
sushe: you’re right about men before women but what about before children? Also the halacha is adressing yidden. Would the same apply to saving goyim?February 1, 2012 1:58 am at 1:58 am #848955susheeMember
For the same reason men are first, yehudim are saved first. And it would also seem a godol chayiv in mitzvos would be saved before a koton.February 1, 2012 2:07 am at 2:07 am #848956
that’s why there’s a shidduch crisis. if pple adhere to halacha and not emotions then the men will be saved first according to halacha and we’ll have more of those creatures in the world.February 1, 2012 2:22 am at 2:22 am #848957
more: o_OFebruary 1, 2012 3:38 am at 3:38 am #848958Medium Size ShadchanMember
more, that’s why there’s a shidduch crisis. if pple adhere to halacha and not emotions then the men will be saved first according to halacha and we’ll have more of those creatures in the world.
Had your mother not have been saved, we’d have less deepthinkers like yourself ch”v.
Perhaps you ought to move to India where most female fetuses are aborted. They have no Shidduch crisis.February 1, 2012 3:55 am at 3:55 am #848959
real-brisker, where are you?!February 1, 2012 4:21 am at 4:21 am #848960dullradianceParticipant
> The halacha, as stated in Shulchan Aruch, says you save men first.
All things being equal that is the halacha.
Since they were so close to shore, the ability for a man to survive in the water a little longer than a child and/or a woman, and that the chance of dying is less than 1 in 100, it would be highly debatable whether the whole concept of “saved” comes in to play. Therefore, there would be a strong argument that in this case, it would OK L’Halacha to aid children and women first.February 1, 2012 4:33 am at 4:33 am #848961
sushe: what i meant was: is there a concept of men first when only goyim are involved.February 1, 2012 7:16 am at 7:16 am #848962
Wun Uv Meny
“real-brisker, where are you?! “
Yes, You davened for parnassa on tues and one of your troll customers came back.February 1, 2012 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #848963Raphael KaufmanMember
There was a pretty detailed halachic analysis of the issue on Gil Student’s blog. (no Link). Notwithstanding the halachic issue of whom to evacuate first, I think we can all agree that the Captain was a jerk. I mean, “I tripped and fell into a life boat”. Puleeeze.February 2, 2012 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #848964
No need to delete this, it’s not meant to be condesending, and it;s not worth deleting!! trust me!
real-brisker, half was not Ice cream, nor pie for that matter…
all I can say is there is ONE moderator here that thinks e/o else is doing what he’s doing- talking to himself! And the more you chase away ‘trolls’, ‘dolts’, ‘retards’,and whatever else you wanna call REAl&fake posters the more you will inevitably talk to yourself!
you have a choice be welcoming and accomodating to us all or the inevitable…:) btw: I noticed moi aussie and a NUMBER of others haven’t posted in a while either…:( was he blocked??February 3, 2012 4:07 am at 4:07 am #848965
more, how do you know about half, ice cream, and QT pie?February 3, 2012 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #848966ToiParticipant
equal rights say the feminists; let them go down too.February 4, 2012 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #848967
Wun Uv Meny
“more, how do you know about half, ice cream, and QT pie?”
LOL, how do I know moi Aussie, Zeena.kasta, and a number of other posters here?
There could also be a number of people posting under one username… I, for instance Once posted under half’s name.. half is not a relative of mine.. nor is the creator of ‘ice cream’ & ‘pie’, Although one of the chup’s belong to me, but again not all the posts under my username will be written by one person, “chup” was created by me there are a number of eyes here that you mod(s) don’t know about..February 5, 2012 1:17 am at 1:17 am #848968real-briskerMember
Mods – Why do you aproove post that are lies?February 5, 2012 1:27 am at 1:27 am #848970ED IT ORParticipant
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