June 29, 2021 9:11 pm at 9:11 pm #1987229DBSParticipant
Ethics aside, people who never owned slaves paying to people who never were slaves is just plain silly.June 30, 2021 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #1987514
Participant -“the only reasonable way of phrasing your argument is that slavery is okay. naturally the question of reparations doesn’t begin. and the notion of slavery not being okay, even in this generation, also doesn’t begin.”
Your posts are getting more absurd!
According to the Torah – Slavery is fine.
Yes, that would apply in every generation.
“there is no way to say slavery is wrong in this generation but never was. and if you think there is please explain it using rational reasoning –not excerpts of a college ethics class.”
Stop with your Manipulation!
The fact that you can’t have a discussion about Reparations, is because you have No Comprehension about Ethical Rules!
I believe the Torah allows Slavery forever.
I’m not here to teach you Ethics according to their way of thinking.
So since you don’t have any Knowledge about Ethics – you just believe anything you hear from the Leftists & the Media!
The facts are according to Ethical Rules – there is Nothing Wrong with Generations having different set of Rules.
So this generation says Slavery is wrong & the previous Generations did it and is wasn’t considered anything wrong!
If you want to educate yourself about Ethics, go take a College Course.
The Media and Liberal Colleges pervert the Truth!
So they Spit at the Torah & they Manipulate the Ethical Rules that Scholars have made previously!June 30, 2021 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm #1987535ParticipantParticipant
let’s try this a different way.
ethics, principles, and morals are based on underlying philosophies. they’re not arbitrary statements assumed at whim.
if it’s to be assumed slavery is wrong, there has to be an underlying philosophy. what underlying philosophy is there that will change based on the generation?
*the underlying philosophy as I see it is the inherent value of humans which transcends a monetary, propertial status. additionally, the equalness of people eliminates a possibility of one human arresting ownership over another.
use this philosophy or not, so long as u explain what changed throughout the generations.June 30, 2021 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #1987634
Participant -“if it’s to be assumed slavery is wrong, there has to be an underlying philosophy. what underlying philosophy is there that will change based on the generation?”
Do you post with other SN’s?
Stop with your PC/Woke aittude!
You obviously learned that from the Left, Libs & the Media.
It’s Not wrong according to the Torah.
And also it wasn’t Wrong in that Generation, because Ethical Values change all the Time!
Before you come back with your Woke answer, go Study something called Ethics.
You can learn it Online or you could go to a Non-Liberal college/university!
Don’t get your education from the Sick Liberals nowadays!
That’s why Trump wanted to have only Educated People coming here.
We don’t Need every Dumb person immigrating here.
The reason that the DemonCrats don’t want Intelligent people here, is because Dumb people can be controlled like Zombies!June 30, 2021 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #1987698☕️coffee addictParticipant
To add to health (who sounds like what Rabbi Miller would say)
The Torah says לעולם בהם תעבודו just in case you don’t know לשון הקודש, לעולם means forever, no ifs, ands, or butsJuly 1, 2021 12:08 am at 12:08 am #1987714ParticipantParticipant
no turning without a signal.
as I’ve mentioned like a couple hundred times already, the question of reparations comes after the assumption slavery is wrong. if you think slavery isn’t wrong, then call the emancipation proclamation woke-don’t start talking about reparations which is the next step.
@health can u post some substance? which of my assertions is incorrect? that ethics are based on an underlying philosophy? that a core philosophy can’t evolve over time? these are very simple questions that takes shorter to answer than to send me to college. (how conservative of you.)
I never studied ethics, nor do I plan on it. I hear tell ethics courses in college glorify perversion, a position that I’m certain a believing Christian like you doesn’t agree with. what I have posted is called logic. something you’re not very familiar with and something that, unfortunately, can’t be taught.July 1, 2021 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #1987983
Participant -“position that I’m certain a believing Christian like you doesn’t agree with.”
“the underlying philosophy as I see it is the inherent value of humans which transcends a monetary, propertial status. additionally, the equalness of people eliminates a possibility of one human arresting ownership over another.
you think slavery isn’t wrong, then call the emancipation proclamation woke-don’t start talking about reparations which is the next step.”
With people like you – it’s not possible to argue with.
After all you’re the Know-it-All.
Why don’t you tell e/o what your beliefs are?
You already admitted that you know nothing about Ethics in the Goyishe World.
That means you’re calling me Christian is because you Know a lot of Torah.
Like CA wrote – “The Torah says לעולם בהם תעבודו just in case you don’t know לשון הקודש, לעולם means forever, no ifs, ands, or buts.”
So it must be that you’re a Kofer, because you’re Not defending the Woke Society, because you know nothing about Ethical Rules.
“the equalness of people eliminates a possibility of one human arresting ownership over another”
This simply Is Kefira, but you’re calling me a Christian?!?
Wake up and get a Life!
Don’t post everything that you hear in the Crazy Woke/PC World!July 1, 2021 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #1987968The4thBranchParticipant
Jews do not care what a person does, who a person loves, etc. Jews just want to be left alone. Jews shouldn’t care about gay rights, prison reform, etc. only that we are left alone to give our sons a bris.
And i wouldn’t say “extreme liberalism” to describe the current Left – liberalism is exactly the root of the word – freedom, to be able to do what you want. Jews, after our 2000 year marathon around the world finally found a society that would just leave us alone and allow us to be free. The ACLU was filled with Jews and they even defended Nazi’s when they wanted to march. Freedom means allowing those who you disagree with to in fact disagree with you, not forcing them to accept your values. This is why Jews are liberals.July 2, 2021 1:16 am at 1:16 am #1988039
T4B -“liberalism is exactly the root of the word – freedom, to be able to do what you want”
I would believe your argument, but it’s not True.
This country has claimed that they are liberal, but in reality they are just anti-Semitic.
How do I know this?
Because they don’t allow Jews to be accommodated – not to work on Shabbos. But they go so much backwards to accommodate other groups like the Gays!
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