June 30, 2011 12:47 am at 12:47 am #597718
Since your Bar Mitzvah, did you ever miss an entire day of wearing Tefilin (other than Shabbos and Yom Tov)?June 30, 2011 12:51 am at 12:51 am #782098oomisParticipant
Boy, did I ever misread this one. I thought you were asking if (we ladies) miss the fact that we do not wear tefillin. To which I was about to reply, I have enough to keep me busy with the mitzvos Hashem already gave me, thanks.June 30, 2011 2:56 am at 2:56 am #782099
Yes.June 30, 2011 3:08 am at 3:08 am #782100
If you started wearing Tefilin at a later age than Bar Mitzvah (e.g. B.T.), then replace Bar Mitzvah with the date you started wearing Tefilin as it pertains to the question.June 30, 2011 3:13 am at 3:13 am #782101goody613Member
no bli ayin haraJune 30, 2011 3:19 am at 3:19 am #782102
I appreciate your sensitivity, Englishman, but my answer is still yes.June 30, 2011 3:44 am at 3:44 am #782103goody613Member
englishman-what about you?June 30, 2011 5:42 am at 5:42 am #782104dunnoMember
Me too!!June 30, 2011 10:26 am at 10:26 am #782105Shticky GuyParticipant
To miss putting on tefillin is a bittul mitzvas asei, r”l. This carries a chiyuv korban!
If you’ve gotten yourself into a rut and missed, then change from TODAY! If you find it difficult to go to shul then at least put on at home and at least say the minimum with them on eg maybe just shema? Not paskening. Check with your LOR. And just remember: you are not doing Hashem the favor; its the other way round!June 30, 2011 11:00 am at 11:00 am #782106Ad Dilo YadaParticipant
nope neverJune 30, 2011 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #782107newhereParticipant
“To miss putting on tefillin is a bittul mitzvas asei, r”l. This carries a chiyuv korban!” There’s no chiyuv to bring a korban for a bittual aseh. One should bring an olah, but it is definitely not a chiyuv. Also, who says missing tefillin one day is a bittul aseh, where does it say there’s a chiyuv to wear tefflin daily?June 30, 2011 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm #782108bombmaniacParticipant
id like to think im not a poshea yisrael b’gufo so no…ive never missed t’fillin. someone once told me that they “just didnt have a chance sometimes” someone seemingly frum…im sorry but if you missed tefillin because you “didnt have a chance” then youve got serious problems. it was quite difficult for me to hold my tongue.June 30, 2011 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #782109HaLeiViParticipant
I’m not sure about why such a survey would be so much fun, but you aren’t really supposed to publicize a misdeed. It is a Chilul Hashem.June 30, 2011 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #782111newhereParticipant
bobmaniac- Look up the gemara, a poshea yisroel bigufo is someone who never puts on tefillin, not someone who misses a day.June 30, 2011 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #782112zahavasdadParticipant
just didnt have a chance sometimes
What if the persons wife was in the hospital (say after giving birth) and he was home with the rest of the kids . He had to play “Mr Mom” for a few days while his wife was in the hospital (Lets say it was December when days are short)
He has to wake up his kids feed them send them off to school . Take care of the kids who are too young for school. make Lunch for the ones at home. Make Dinner for the other ones and by the time he could catch his breath it was dark outJune 30, 2011 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #782113
there are cases where he is an onus, certainly, in a coma, undergoing surgery, etc.
your scenario is not a case of onus
did he eat during the day?
did he go to the bathroom?
putting on Tefillin, if necessary, can take about 2 minutes.
its not just a nice thing to do if you get a chance.June 30, 2011 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #782114
Agreed, Mod. It’s more important than that. In my case, for the record, it was a special circumstance.June 30, 2011 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #782115
i dont see anything good coming out of this. if you would care to explain englishman why you started this thread, otherwise it will join the closed worldJune 30, 2011 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #782116
why do you wanna close it? its just a harmless discussion.June 30, 2011 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #782117
because, oh ubiquitous and questioning one, i have divined with my super moderation sense that there is a lot of potential for a not nice discussion, which i would like to avoid if there is no positive purpose.
for starters its not nice to ask strangers if any of them have commited an aveira. would you take such a poll in a group of strangers?June 30, 2011 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #782118
Well, Mod, there is a distinction between an aveira that was done passively, without action (Missing tefilin) and actively. I wouldn’t take a poll about an actively transgressed aveira, but a passive aveira, if for some reason I was curious about, I might take a poll on.June 30, 2011 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #782119
thats why i didnt close it yetJune 30, 2011 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #782120
And how many people RCHMN’L think they are putting on Tefilin everyday when in fact their tefilin are posul or they are just not putting it on correctly something I see everyday on the Shel Yad when you pull the retzua if your shirt gets stuck or if the retzua is turned upside down lechoira your not Yotzai tefilin.June 30, 2011 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #782121
for starters its not nice to ask strangers if any of them have commited an aveira. would you take such a poll in a group of strangers?
mod- you are right! again- are you ever going to be wrong?!?!?)June 30, 2011 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #782122
Shel Yad? oy and i see so many people with the Shel Rosh in a position that is maakav the Mitzvah.June 30, 2011 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #782123
am i ever wrong?
ask my wife.June 30, 2011 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #782124
I would say 90% of the oilam is not carful about the shel yad issue.June 30, 2011 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #782125
depends on the olam i suppose
my experience is very different
i would say 10% are not careful with the SY, 40% are not careful with the SR.
why dont you start a thread on this?June 30, 2011 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #782126
so you can have another thread to close?June 30, 2011 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #782127twistedParticipant
There were many mornings I missed due to digestive mishaps where i recovered by mincha time, and my last and only encounter with the flue was 9 days in winter 95 in which to me, there was no night or day, I barely kept myself hydrated, and was basically as onus as i”ve ever been bar anesthesia.June 30, 2011 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #782128
how in the world are you aware of people that have a bit of their shirt under the maavarta, or a retzua that is twisted. nobody wears a jacket or Talis or puts their shirt over it?
90%! very hard to believe, what kind of olam are you talking about?June 30, 2011 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #782129charliehallParticipant
not since i became frum — but there were a few days when i put them on in the afternoon when i was so sick that i couldn’t get out of bed in the morningJune 30, 2011 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #782130
My intended discussion was to bring awareness as to the vital importance of not missing even a single day of Tefilin. (Hence I placed it in the Inspiration/Mussar category.) Apologies for the phrasing of the title/op posing it as a question. I wasn’t sufficiently creative to better phrase it as to its intent, but do consider that the purpose of this exercise.June 30, 2011 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #782131
well fix the titleJune 30, 2011 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #782132
i like the way you write
are you from england?
(my super moderator sense at work again)June 30, 2011 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #782133
I’m a Sofer So its my tendency to watch people as they put on their teffilin.As a Sofer I am more aware of these issues.
There is always the question should I bother him should I tell him that his Tefillin are crooked or his Retzua is upside down or its on top of his shirt. I try to let the YT prevail and I help a Friend.June 30, 2011 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #782134zaidy78Participant
I once heard from a Rosh Yeshiva that no where in the Torah does it say that you have to wear them everyday. Al pi Torah, a person is soppose to where tiffilin everyday all day, which we don’t do today for a number of valid reasons. Of course, whenever he wears it he gets the mitzva, so by wearing them the next day longer, he gets the mitzva longer.
I also once heard from R’ Amnon Yitzchok (I think) that if someone missed many years of Teffilin (baal teshuva) one thing that he can do, is to get others to do the mitzva. So that on a single day he can have the zchus of putting on teffilin more than once.July 1, 2011 1:40 am at 1:40 am #782135bombmaniacParticipant
“What if the persons wife was in the hospital (say after giving birth) and he was home with the rest of the kids . He had to play “Mr Mom” for a few days while his wife was in the hospital (Lets say it was December when days are short)
He has to wake up his kids feed them send them off to school . Take care of the kids who are too young for school. make Lunch for the ones at home. Make Dinner for the other ones and by the time he could catch his breath it was dark out”
i honestly dont care. make time. 5 minutes even. just do it. aside from the fact that i KNOW the guy who told me that was just pashut negligent.
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