April 14, 2015 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #615489👑RebYidd23Participant
Let’s be honest. Which do you prefer?April 15, 2015 2:42 am at 2:42 am #1097182testakerMember
if with the right ppl and right topic they can both lead to clarity……April 15, 2015 4:19 am at 4:19 am #1097183ChortkovParticipant
if with the right ppl and right topic they can both lead to clarity……
If your with the right people, you don’t have arguments. Discussions can lead to clarity. Arguments are a futile waste of time, because nobody is willing or trying to accept anything from anybody else; the sole purpose is to present your opinion with as much force as possible. It generally ends in “you said… I said…” fighting and a general confusion of who was right and who was wrong. And, in many occasions, arguments escalate and ends up with personal insults, or at least hard feelings.
Yes it is.
No it isn’t.August 20, 2015 2:35 am at 2:35 am #1097184
yekke2- right on!August 20, 2015 2:42 am at 2:42 am #1097185JosephParticipant
Don’t we have many machlokes’ in the Gemora?August 20, 2015 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #1097186
Machlokes L’SHEM SHAMAYIM can’t exactly be qualified as an “argument,” because it’s not personal- even if it looks like it’s personal.
Most arguments that people get into are personal. It’s not even about the subject at hand; it’s about “I’m right and you’re wrong; you need to respect me.”August 20, 2015 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #1097187JosephParticipant
Nu, so let’s have machlokes l’sheim shamayim. 🙂August 20, 2015 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #1097188
😉 That’s where discussions differ from arguments. they’re not really personal, because they are about the topic at hand and not “I’m right, you’re wrong.”
So this is a discussion. Nothing personal:)August 21, 2015 5:06 am at 5:06 am #1097189Torah613TorahParticipant
Arguments are more exciting. Plus you learn more about people when they feel there is more at stake in the argumentAugust 21, 2015 5:34 am at 5:34 am #1097190YomKippurKotonMember
Arguments are the worst. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely wrong.
Let’s fight about it!
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