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Dogma and extremist mindsets significantly distort moral agency by replacing nuanced ethical reasoning with rigid, black-and-white thinking and moral disengagement. This process is driven by both psychological and neuropsychological mechanisms that prioritize group loyalty and emotional certainty over objective moral evaluation.
Dogmatic thinking creates a closed cognitive system where individuals accept beliefs without criticism and reject opposing viewpoints, effectively halting critical moral reasoning And personal responsibility. This rigidity leads to moral disengagement, where harmful actions are justified as serving a higher good or protecting the group’s group think. Consequently, individuals surrender personal responsibility to a larger ideology or authority, allowing them to rationalize behavior that would normally violate their moral code. The belief in one’s own moral righteousness becomes absolute, fostering intolerance and justifying character assassination and opression as necessary defenses of truth.
I’m talking to you qweurty
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What nevuah is saying is that those who accept and adhere to the teachings of Pirkei Avos and Rambam and Rashi and the Gaon etc. are dogmatic extremists. Tell that worthless kofer, checkmate. There is some good news. He has no spelling mistakes except for my name. lol It’s only a matter of time til I break this nut job.
Yes, and?
Hello??? Where are the mods to shut down this coffee room? Every thread has become a vicious debate about zionism… Even the most random discussion becomes the same debate of everyone vs qwerty, ujm and hakatan… YWN, its time to shut down this “Kosher Chat Room” you’ve created… For as we all know, that’s all the coffee room is…. Your classic online chat room that happens to be on a Jewish site, so people can lie to themselves and think they’re not wasting hours upon hours of their lives in “real” chatrooms….
Shut it down.
All who agree with me, please say “aye”. (No long posts please…. Just say “aye”)
Reply to nevuah. Firstly I agree with qwerty613: you are a koifer – whether you realise it or not. If your rant was only against dogma, I would have responded differently. But since you include ‘extremist’ you clearly mean strict adherence to Orthodox belief, as established by the nevi’im, anshe kenesses hagedoilah, tanoim, amaroim, rishoinim, achroinim, and you propose to follow your own critical reasoning. You are starting from a place that does not end here. You are clearly a troll, and a sick one at that.
nevuah, your entire argument is based on a false premise – that morality comes from within. It does not. Morality comes from Hashem and the Torah.
Here’s an example where I surrender my personal view to a larger ideology: society today, for the most part, is very accepting of same-gender marriages. From a personal perspective, why should I oppose this? Why should it matter to me who someone wants to be with, and what they do? But, the Torah tells us that it’s wrong, and therefore I surrender my personal thoughts to the will of Hashem, and I oppose it. The morality is set by Hashem and the Torah, not by my personal views.
In the wild, animals live by survival of the fittest. The strong take from the weak. Why shouldn’t mankind be the same? If I’m stronger than you, why shouldn’t I be able to just attack you and take whatever I want from you? It’s because Hashem told us that killing is wrong, stealing is wrong, etc that society has these laws. Yes, it dates back thousands of years, even pre-dating Matan Torah. But it came from what Hashem told the people at the time, and it became the norm in society.
So yes, absolutely we should surrender to the greater ideology of the Torah!
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