October 5, 2011 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #599786amusedParticipant
What is the easiest Succah to build?October 5, 2011 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #838220TheGoqParticipant
Lego’sOctober 5, 2011 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #838221BaalHaboozeParticipant
ROFL!! Goq comes up with yet another line, how many do you have in that hat?
Hey, I just remembered a funny thing. When I was about 16 I once had to take over a kindergarden class, and say a story. I had no story as it was a last minute decision, and I was put on the spot. So I made up a story of the 3 little Shepselehs who went out to build a succah for themselves. One made one out of hay, one out of sticks, etc.
lol….oh well, HTBTOctober 5, 2011 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #838222TheGoqParticipant
ty baal. funny story!October 5, 2011 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #838223amusedParticipant
You guys are ruining my thread. I need to get this thing done before Succos!October 5, 2011 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #838224charlie brownMember
it seems amused is not amused at all. (sorry, just had to say that).October 5, 2011 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #838225
Are you actually planning on buying a sukkah based on advice given here?
You really should go to sukkah sellers and check out the latest models for yourself.
Based on my personal experiences, either canvas or prefab fiberglass are both quite easy and fast to put up.
Here are a few pros and cons to consider for each:
You can easily buy more panels to expand it if necessary.
-The panels can be bulky and awkward to put up without a second person helping, especially the first corner piece.
-It takes up a lot more space when stored.
-It stores in a very small area.
-It can easily be put up by one person.
Canvas cons:October 5, 2011 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #838226yitayningwutParticipant
You aren’t amused?October 5, 2011 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #838227Baal BooseParticipant
1) Buy 6 sheets of plywood. (4 FEET X 8 FEET)
Stand them up for walls Walls; 1 x2 x1 x2.
2) Connect them with angle thingies (and straight ones) .
3) Get 4 2×4 put them on top of sukkah, and lay out schach on top.
DONE 🙂October 5, 2011 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm #838228supergirl613Member
ICOT, i have to disagree with you on a few points which you said about the cons on the canvas succah. We have a canvas, and we actually have two canvas succahs, 1 for sleeping and 1 for eating. For the sleeping 1, we put air mattresses and people sleep there. And about expanding it, it’s possible to expand it. My family is k”yh very large, so we have to expand our succah, which we are. Amused, I hope this makes your decision a little easier!!October 6, 2011 2:27 am at 2:27 am #838229RamchasParticipant
Here is my take – Use the building construction frame concept:
1) Frame 2×3’s or 2×4’s – cut to size choice – flat on the ground
2) Connect them with angular connectors from the inside
3) Get aluminium fittings to erect 2×3’s or 2X4’s studs every 4 ft
5) Screw in the fittings and the studs
4) Mount a roof frame on top of the studs – same as ground frame
5) Use 48X96″ plywood or corrugated plastic for the walls
If done with Seichel the first time around, this Sukkah will be very easy to mount every year thereafter.
Hatzlacha!October 6, 2011 3:24 am at 3:24 am #838230commonsenseParticipant
they are selling a succah that is not so different then lego. Each panel is two interconnecting plastic pieces. I have never tried it but it looks easy.October 6, 2011 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #838231
Are you being serious?
-What about a door?
-by a single person
-with zero or minimal tool use
-in an hour or less
I think I’ve seen an ad for the sukkah you’re describing, and it sounds like it may match the OP’s criterion, but I’m not familiar with it myself.October 6, 2011 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #838232Dr. SeussMember
How about the “Pop-Up-Succah”? I would imagine it is quite easy to pop it open anytime you need it. But how isn’t it muktzah to close the Succah on Succos (to take it with you)?October 6, 2011 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #838233charlie brownMember
commonsense – they’re not quite as easy as they look.October 6, 2011 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #838234gavra_at_workParticipant
The Tubular Sukkah:
Taking the Concept of Klutz-Proof to a New Level
Google “The Sukkah Project”
Alternatively, you can have your contractor build a skylight that opens out, and just add schach when you want a succah.October 6, 2011 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #838235✡onegoal™Participant
In previous years I had a job of building peoples sukkahs, so I have experience with many different types and I think the “click together” ones are quite easy to build but are a bit fragile. The sukkah I have is the fiberglass one. It is very easy to put together but you may need 2 people depending on how skilled you are. It needs alot of support on the top with the cross beams otherwise it will collapse into itself. Good luck.October 6, 2011 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #838236ToiParticipant
use zip ties!!! alot of people in EY do so and theyre super strong. and its not maamid dmaamid. what up!! drill and zip ties in light would ze hu.October 6, 2011 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #838237gavra_at_workParticipant
and its not maamid dmaamid.
Why not? They are Pasul for Schach?October 6, 2011 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #838238MDGParticipant
An old friend of mine is a builder, and he told me that if one is going to use ply-board and beams, then use 1/4 inch (think) ply and use 2×2’s for the beams. If you use thicker boards, you will need thicker beams to keep them in place, and that all gets heavy.
If your Sukkah is up on a deck, you may want to get an outdoor rug to prevent the (cold) breeze from coming through the floor beams. You can get them from Lowes or HD. Expect to pay around $70-$100 for about 12’x12′.October 6, 2011 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #838239happiestMember
We have the fiberglass one and because we are in such a wind tunnel we need to add pieces of wood attached to help stand it up. We also need beems to hold the schach in place but that might be because it is too wide and too long. Just be careful because there have been years where everyone has lost their succahs… recently 2 of our panels broke because of falling and wind. They were fixed last yr by our succah builder but if it wouldn’t have been, it would have been very expensive to replace!October 7, 2011 3:34 am at 3:34 am #838240Baal BooseParticipant
1) Am i being serious? I dont know- are you being intelligent?
2) 4′ (feet) is narrow- ya; i dont see any specs in the question. And it doesnt take much imagination to make the sukkah 8×8 instead of 8×4. the only spec was ‘easy’.
3)3/4″ plywood. where did you get that figure from? Of course its heavy. Get a 1/4″ for one-time and a 5/8 for yeaar to year.
4) Splintering? So what- the only criteria was ‘simple’.
5)Door; good point; Clarification – one of the panels should be on a hinge instead of an ‘L’ brace. Then you can add an eye-hook on the other side.
6)Will require tools – So? are screwdrivers dangerous? Putting a screw into wood sounds simple.
7) Protruding screw ends; they sell screws in various sizes.
PS two days before yom-kippur – you should be a bit more polite.October 7, 2011 5:04 am at 5:04 am #838241
I apologize for having offended you – I won’t say “if I offended you”, because I clearly did.
My intent wasn’t to be sarcastic, but after the jocular tone of earlier posts, and what I interpreted as your possibly joking tone – specifically the use of the word “thingy” – I wasn’t sure if you were joking or not.
Although I previously asked for mechila before Rosh Hashana, and was trying to be careful not to post anything offensive between then and Yom Kippur, I have clearly failed.
I ask for your mechila, and assure you that my prior response wasn’t intended to insult or belittle in any way.
I’m not sure if my previous post should be deleted.
Although it wasn’t my intent, it may have come across as disrespectful to others I addressed in that post.
I’ll trust your judgement.
Despite all the good that can be done here, this an an example of a potential pitfall in the CR.
Had another poster not spoken up and given me the opportunity to clarify my intent, he would have thought I had deliberately made an insulting, belittling comment.
It’s food for thought, and something I will think about.December 25, 2011 8:07 pm at 8:07 pm #838242
I am hesitant to post the following, but leaving what I consider inaccurate advice unchallenged wouldn’t be right.
No offense to “Baal Boose”, but the ideas he posted for building a sukkah aren’t ones that I agree with.
-1/4″ plywood isn’t rigid or strong enough for walls. It’s more suited for furniture backing.
-ignoring factors such as weight, splintering, and other things isn’t a good idea. It’s better to consider all factors when giving advice, even those not explicitly mentioned.
-Hinging a 4’x8′ piece of plywood will require bracing so the wall it’s fastened to doesn’t move.
-screws aren’t a good idea here. nuts and bolts, with washers, are much more practical.
If anyone has specific “how to” questions about sukkah construction, or would like my opinion about whether or not an idea you have is practical, please post it here.
Although I’m not a professional carpenter, I do have a bit of experience with building and repair.December 25, 2011 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #838243ED IT ORParticipant
yes, let’s all start building sukkos on chanukah!
seriously how did this come upDecember 26, 2011 4:01 am at 4:01 am #838244ZeesKiteParticipant
A Yavan in Sukkah, of course!
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