October 30, 2011 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm #600252gezuntheitMember
According to Rav Moshe’s heter allowing a tefach of hair on an eishes ish to be visible, is that according to Rav Moshe a b’dieved situation or did he permit showing that hair l’chatchila? IOW, can an eishes ish b’davka show her hair? Or only if it popped out unfortunately or it is too difficult to get under her hair covering?
An does the allownce for a tefach include a total tefach combined of uncovered hair in front and back? How much is a tefach?
Which shittas disagree with Rav Moshe and hold even less than a tefach is impermissible to be showing publicly?October 31, 2011 1:14 am at 1:14 am #822420nosyparkerParticipant
If you do your homework correctly you’ll see that Reb Moshe’s heter allowing a tefach of hair on an eishes ish to be visible was never meant for the general public. It was a psak for a single instance for a woman, who was not living in a frum community, who otherwise would have refused to cover her hair altogether.
There is a letter from R’ Moshe’s son, ( I believe R’ Reuvan) which is published in R’ Falks Sefer (Oz Vehadar Levusha) explaining the premise for that psak. And over there her reiterates that it was not intended as a heter for anyone else.October 31, 2011 1:18 am at 1:18 am #822421EnglishmanMember
I believe it to be a square tefach. Meaning it can’t be a full linear tefach.October 31, 2011 2:27 am at 2:27 am #822422ObaminatorMember
nosyparker: It is Hagaon HaRav Dovid that said what you reference, that the teshuva was a personal heter for an exceptional case. Rav Dovid Halpern shlita wrote about the question to Rav Dovid on this and that was Rav Dovid’s response. HaRav Matisyahu Soloman shlita also wrote a letter saying he met Rav Dovid Feinstein and Rav Dovid agreed to publicize Rav Halpern’s above letter. Rav Avraham Pam also stated that it is clear that Rav Moshe did not give a collective heter to leave some hair uncovered. Rav Nissim Karelitz also writes that Rav Moshe was only allowing it in a specific special case.
The Chasam Sofer and the Chazon Ish have issued a psak forbidding any hair from showing.October 31, 2011 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #822423cherrybimParticipant
About an inch (two finger widths) all around. But you can’t give any woman tochcha or musser unless you know that she will listen.October 31, 2011 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #822424LSHMember
I was taught in a very religious school that it could be three finger widths. Hair does pop out because we’re very busy, Baruch Hashem.
By the way, the snood is the way to go. There’s this Rabbi who just passed away who said in his will that he’s giving a special bracha to the women who wear snoods. I now feel really good about wearing snoods and I’m planning to buy some more! Chabad women should keep wearing their sheitels because that’s what their Rabbi told them to do.
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