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    streekgeek
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    I can’t remember from where, but I heard that the reason why people feel so exhilarated and free while doing extreme sports (I heard this in reference to skiing) is because the neshama feels that there is a chance that you might die and it can finally leave the body, hence the exhilaration. Anyone ever here of this or know the source?

    Thanks!

    #987822

    That’s morbid.

    #987823

    Maybe not morbid, actually, cuz if the Neshama is elated, that’s a good thing, I guess?

    What I meant is that is scary and interesting. Please tell me more.

    #987824
    writersoul
    Member

    Nah, was just thinking morbid myself.

    #987825
    streekgeek
    Participant

    And I was thinking it was ccol 🙂

    But could be it’s made up cuz none of the rabbis here seem to know anything about it.

    #987826
    kkls45
    Member

    If that was true, why would non-Jewish people have that same exhilaration?

    But it is a cool thought!

    #987827
    streekgeek
    Participant

    If I’m not mistaken, non-Jews have souls too. They’re of a different make-up than ours, but they’ve got them.

    #987828
    kkls45
    Member

    True that they might have souls, but is it really the same “neshama” that is excited to die? Why would their souls be excited to leave if they don’t have olam haba awaiting them (excluding the righteous gentiles here)

    #987829
    LevAryeh
    Member

    See the Rambam Hilchos Yesodei Hatorah 4:8, where he says that every human being has what’s called ??? or ???.

    Then see 4:9, where he clearly differentiates between the ??? and the ????, so there would be no indication that a Goy has a ????.

    #987830
    the-art-of-moi
    Participant

    Wow, that’s so cool!

    #987831

    This can be comparable to people that cut their wrists to get a thrill.

    #987832
    Outsider
    Member

    LOL… you guys crack me up. Why not try something that “feels” dangerous, but is actually quite safe…. like riding a roller coaster and find out for yourself? If you’ve ever gone skiing, even the first time down the beginner slope can be quite terrifying, you don’t have to snowboard out of a helicopter to get a similar feeling, UNLESS, you’re such a thrill “junkie” that normal slopes don’t do it for you.

    And that’s basically what these guys are, like drug addicts. They’ve done everything so much that nothing excites them, except the for the highest “dosages” of speed and danger.

    #987833
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    Personally, I get enough of a thrill out of crossing the street.

    #987834
    streekgeek
    Participant

    Why would their souls be excited to leave if they don’t have olam haba awaiting them

    I wasn’t thinking along the lines of the neshama being ready to move on already. More like the neshama, which is a spiritual “thing” (used for lack of better words) was thrust in to this physical world when it doesn’t want to be here. Especially after all the abuse we give it….

    #987835
    streekgeek
    Participant

    LAB – that is so interesting. I’m taking your word for it cuz I don’t read seforim but I do remember learning (I think from the Ramchal) that there are 5 parts to the neshama. Nefesh and ruach are two of them and they’re two separate things (and they’re more physical – found in the bloodstream and brain….) So in essence, a non-Jew has part of a neshama.

    #987836
    LevAryeh
    Member

    Yeah, the Rambam does say that the Nefesh/Ruach needs the body, as opposed to the Neshama. Feel free to look it up.

    #987837
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    People also get exhilerated taking other large risks that don’t include death. For example gambling.

    #987838
    WIY
    Member

    Streekgeek

    Cut and pasted from webmd

    When it comes to extreme sports, the adrenaline factor likely plays a role in explaining why athletes reach for the outer limits as well.

    #987839
    dafbiyun
    Participant

    Its not rocket science. Endiomorhins are released during extreme exersise. This provides the high. Work on a sugya for 8 hours till you have it totally clear and your neshama will experience a high.

    #987840
    WIY
    Member

    dafbiyun

    Endorphins.

    #987841
    LevAryeh
    Member

    WIY

    Copied and pasted.

    #987842
    WIY
    Member

    LAB

    Lol. Technically I can still be right.

    #987843
    dafbiyun
    Participant

    wow. i must have used that word incorectly dozens of times. girsa d’yankasa

    #987844
    scroller
    Member

    I would say it applies to Jews as well. Being that the gemara mentions the dangerous sport of bullfighting were people would train bulls to fight with one another and even fight with other people.

    See tosfos bava kama 24b: ????? ???? ?? ????? ??’. ?? ??? ???? ??????? (???? ?? ??.) ????? ???? ??? ??????

    I do not think this is a spiritual thrill. It is a chemical one that can be found in both Jews and non-Jews.

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