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January 18, 2011 9:16 am at 9:16 am #594287bombmaniacParticipant
So one fine morning i was making myself some corn when i thought of something either profoundly brilliant or profoundly stupid. You know that joke about the worm and the apple? What’s worse than finding a worm in your apple – finding half a worm in your apple. (If you don’t get the joke then I’m sorry. You can toddle off now.) So I was thinking, if finding a half a worm is worse than finding a whole worm, then it stands to reason that finding a quarter of a worm would be even worse. It would further follow that finding an eighth of a worm in your apple would be even worse.
Following that logic, you would eventually reach the conclusion that the absolute WORST thing would be finding no worm in your apple, because perhaps you ate the entire thing. When was the last time you worried about that while eating an apple? Never. Of course, Because you have enough of a reason to believe that there never was a worm there in the first place. Yet why does the possibility never worry anyone? it seems like a legitimate concern. The answer of course is because it seems irrelevant to you. You have absolutely no reason to believe that there is a worm in the apple and therefore you choose not to worry about the possibility. You don’t worry about the existence of the worm because you feel no need to unnecessarily worry yourself. The possibility of the worm is in essence irrelevant.
I give you…Existentialism. The Worm-Less Apple. (If you understand this, I commend you.)
January 18, 2011 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #972557popa_bar_abbaParticipantYes, that is right.
And the worst thing to find in your bank account is no money. (Is that the same thing?)
January 18, 2011 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #972558always hereParticipanthmmm… corn for breakfast? on the cob or canned? perhaps frozen?
j/k ;P
January 18, 2011 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #972559YW Moderator-80Memberi like your train of thought bomb, until the conclusion.
but in all the cases you mentioned until the one with no worm at all, there is strong EVIDENCE that you have recently consumed a portion of a worm. in the case of no worm at all there is no evidence whatsoever. you actually stated this yourself so i dont understand why you actually posted this.
your original question as to whether this was profoundly brilliant or the opposite seems quite clear.
no one worries about what might have happened if there is no significant indication that it might have. no one worries whether or not their dinner last night contained a delayed action poison which will be suddenly fatal in 24 hours. or at least they shouldnt, unless there is an indication that this might have happened.
January 18, 2011 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #972560SacrilegeMemberUm, very philosophical.
But thats not what Existentialism is.
January 18, 2011 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #972561YW Moderator-80Memberi like corn for breakfast
frozen niblets
heated in the microwave
with added salt, a little canola oil and tabasco sauce.
January 18, 2011 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #972562bombmaniacParticipantexistentialism is “are we real” well…my point is that its irrelevant
January 18, 2011 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #972563bombmaniacParticipantat least modern existentialism
January 18, 2011 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #972564SJSinNYCMemberWell, if you constantly halve the distance between yourself and a wall, you will never get there.
January 18, 2011 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm #972565bombmaniacParticipantfor example…the simulation hypothesis. teh idea that if we have achieved such a level of technological sophistication that we can simulate a human being…or we cna project when we will be able to simulate a human being or a society of humans…what is to say that we arent in fact a simulation? perhaps we are the simulation of a higher civilization using us as an experiment? do you see the similarity to teh apple now?
January 18, 2011 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #972566SacrilegeMember“existentialism is “are we real” “
Not so much.
It’s finding out the meaning of life, who and what you are through free will. Based on personal experiences and Religion.
January 18, 2011 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #972567bombmaniacParticipantas i said…more modern existentialism
January 18, 2011 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #972568yitayningwutParticipantbombmaniac-
First of all you’re oversimplifying. But personally I’ve read a few of the essays written by the great existentialists and I’m still not sure exactly how to define it. I don’t think it focuses on the question of are we real, as much as what am I (presupposing and not really focusing on the existence of ‘I’) and what is the meaning of life.
As for your question regarding simulation, I don’t know why you need to get so sophisticated. We all dream, and while dreaming, aren’t aware that what we are experiencing is reality. So whose to say that this is reality?
January 18, 2011 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #972569☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantyour original question as to whether this was profoundly brilliant or the opposite seems quite clear.
Moderator 80, is Popa Bar Abba your screen name? 🙂
January 18, 2011 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #972571SacrilegeMemberModern as in you just made it up?
January 18, 2011 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #972572YW Moderator-80MemberModerator 80, is Popa Bar Abba your screen name?
no, but i think were related
January 18, 2011 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #972573popa_bar_abbaParticipantI am mod 80
January 18, 2011 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #972574YW Moderator-80Memberive told you before not to reveal that information.
if you continue, ill take my medicine.
then well see what becomes of you!
January 18, 2011 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #972575bombmaniacParticipantexistentialism is essentially the idea that each person is responsible for giving their life meaning. now…as an offshoot of that and a clear perversion…you have those who run around questioning the nature of their existence. they are wormless apples.
January 18, 2011 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #972576☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantModerator-80
Mr. 80:
Moderator 80, is Popa Bar Abba your screen name?
no, but i think were related
popa_bar_abba
Sometimes a Bit Over the Top:
I am mod 80
Little family spat here?
January 18, 2011 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #972577YW Moderator-80Membernothing i cant handle.
you see popa thinks hes me
but when i take my medicine he goes away
January 18, 2011 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #972578bombmaniacParticipantdoes that mean he is real? or merely a figment of your imagination…maybe popa is real and you are the fake alter ego…how do you know youre real?!
January 18, 2011 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #972579mewhoParticipantmod 80, be gentle, sometimes one cannot control those voices.
January 18, 2011 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #972580YW Moderator-80Memberpopa is real.
i know this for a fact
everything the voice tells me is true
and im real, obviously, dont be silly
January 18, 2011 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #972581popa_bar_abbaParticipantIf I weren’t real, how could I be asking myself whether I am real?
January 18, 2011 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #972582YW Moderator-80Memberits difficult to keep switching back and forth between screen names.
i dont know how joseph does it
January 18, 2011 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #972583SJSinNYCMemberThis is hysterical. It would be even funnier if it were true.
January 18, 2011 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #972584AinOhdMilvadoParticipantThanks to bombmaniac’s original comment, three of the four voices in my head are telling me I may have consumed a worm with the apple I ate at lunch.
Then again the fourth voice is questioning whether I ever really ate that apple at all, or only THINK I ate an apple.
and don’t even get me started on the corn niblet issue…
January 18, 2011 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #972585mewhoParticipantdont get confused
January 18, 2011 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #972586popa_bar_abbaParticipantits difficult to keep switching back and forth between screen names.
We use different browsers when I’m dominant.
January 18, 2011 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #972587YW Moderator-80Memberthanks for the tip popa!
January 18, 2011 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #972588AinOhdMilvadoParticipantDescartes reportedly once remarked to Kant, over some vadka and a large portion of kasha varnishkes, “Many people think they ARE, simply because they THINK they are, but that may all be just an illusion”.
Kant is said to have replied “Can you pass the vodka?”
January 18, 2011 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #972589always hereParticipantAinOhdMilvado- LOL’ed… really! 🙂
January 19, 2011 1:09 am at 1:09 am #972590squeakParticipantI don’t see existentialism, but I do see a Schroedinger’s Cat analogy. Before you look at the bite you took (measurement), you have eaten and not eaten a worm. Paradoxical.
But Mod 80 is right, if when you look at the apple you don’t see a remnant of a worm then you most likely did not eat a worm.
SJS- as I’m sure you know, the successive halves do sum to 1.
January 19, 2011 1:43 am at 1:43 am #972591YW Moderator-80Memberi remember that sum thing, when i took calculus and we were talking about limits
it was a ball that was dropped under perfect elastic and friction circumstances, each rise half of the preceding drop but it stopped after a second or so
very counter-intuitive
i dont think i believe it
January 19, 2011 7:02 am at 7:02 am #972592YW Moderator-42Moderatordoes this have anything to do with 42?
January 19, 2011 1:56 pm at 1:56 pm #972593Shticky GuyParticipantExcuse me 42. You keep out of this. You’re only (about) half of what 80 is…
August 27, 2013 6:12 am at 6:12 am #972594This name is already takenParticipantshticky- are you mod 42?
August 27, 2013 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #972595twistedParticipantBeware the GMO corn, the xenografted modification being the worm…
August 29, 2013 12:06 am at 12:06 am #972596Shticky GuyParticipantShticky Guy
Excuse me 42. You keep out of this. You’re only
(about) half of what 80 is…
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shticky- are you mod 42?
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No I am not, but boy you’re a fast reader!
August 29, 2013 5:00 am at 5:00 am #972597This name is already takenParticipantWhy do you think I’m a fast reader
August 30, 2013 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #972598dotnetterMemberLOL Shticky!
Ever wonder what would happen if you bit into an apple (or any food, for that matter) and ‘happened’ to crunch your teeth straight through one of the apples atoms, thereby splitting the atom?
You’d get at atom bomb. In your face.
I am amazed that it has never happened yet.
August 30, 2013 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #972599This name is already takenParticipantIt happened to my someone I know
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