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May 16, 2010 5:51 am at 5:51 am #591672HIEParticipant
I can’t fall asleep anyone have ideas
May 16, 2010 6:02 am at 6:02 am #685759mischiefmakerMemberListen to music. It ALWAYS worked for me. Me n’ my sis always have those issues. I think its a teen stage. Make sure it’s soft and very quiet. Some ppl say earphones ruin ur hearing though.
May 16, 2010 6:13 am at 6:13 am #685760HealthParticipantGet rid of your internet service and drink warm milk.
May 16, 2010 6:35 am at 6:35 am #685761qaMemberHealth, how does the internet affect sleep (more than say a newspaper)?
May 16, 2010 7:24 am at 7:24 am #685762HealthParticipantQA -If you’re addicted to it, it’s hard to shut it off & relax.
May 16, 2010 7:49 am at 7:49 am #685763music lover29Memberthe best thing to do is not have bright lights on… Just lay in the dark with your eyes closed and before you know it, you’ll be asleep!
May 16, 2010 10:43 am at 10:43 am #685764Uri in JerusalemParticipantlisten to a shiur on an mp3 player on the lowest volume. It works for me 95% of the time.
May 16, 2010 2:12 pm at 2:12 pm #685765noitallmrParticipantYou gotta be careful about music because it is Ossur to fall asleep to music- making you drowsy I think is ok though…
May 16, 2010 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #685766cherrybimParticipantI heard from Rav Sheinberg that learning in bed will definitely get you to fall asleep since the Satan does not want you to learn. And Uri in Jerusalem is correct, I never remember getting past the first few minutes of a shiur when I’m trying to go to sleep (there are b”h many Torah sites to chooses from).
May 16, 2010 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #685767chesednameParticipantreminds me of the polisha goyta, the employer realized on her last day that lots of jewelry, silver, and valuables were missing.
she called the police at the airport and they detained the fleeing employee, opened her suitcase to the surprise of no one all the missing valuables were there, including a gemarah.
the heimish vabal asked, “the valuables i understand, but why take a gemarah”???
the polisha answered “my husband back home has a hard time falling asleep, i see when your husband opens this magic book, he falls asleep right away”!! lol
May 16, 2010 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #685768Ich Vais Shoin AllesMemberMelatonin is something that the body produces to make you sleepy.
You can pick up some melatonin at your local pharmacy. Take two tablets with a TUMS or other calcium supplement.
May 16, 2010 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #685769d aMemberHIE, welcome to the club!
I can lie in bed for hours and not fall asleep.
I tried everything. Music, radio, a shuir (Rabbi Wallerstein would say to turn on his shuir and you will fall asleep, guaranteed. I used to listen to three shurim a night!), no noise. I can’t really take a sefer to bed, cause then I would need the light on to read it and then I won’t fall asleep.
the best thing to do is not have bright lights on… Just lay in the dark with your eyes closed and before you know it, you’ll be asleep!
I wish!!!
noitallmr
You gotta be careful about music because it is Ossur to fall asleep to music- making you drowsy I think is ok though…
Do you know where you saw/heard about this?
May 16, 2010 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #685770yitayningwutParticipantd a-
There is a general gezeirah against listening to music which was decreed when the Beis Hamikdash was destroyed. (Gittin 7a, Sotah 44a) Some limit it to listening b’kvius, and their example is those who go to sleep to music. (See Rema O.C. 560) However the whole gezeirah is controversial as to what exactly it pertains to – if you look around people don’t seem to be keeping it. R’ Moshe for talks about it at length in the Igros, as do many recent poskim. One interesting shitah is the Chelkas Yoav who maintains that the entire gezeirah was never ‘chal’ on any kind of instrument that didn’t exist then, and so electric or recorded music would not be included at all. But there is a lot to discuss, and it isn’t something to pasken al regel achas, so my advice is to ask your rav.
May 16, 2010 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #685771tzippiMemberDon’t go on the computer or sit in front of a screen late at night.
Get out the book No More Sleepless Nights by Dr. Peter Hauri; worth looking into.
And if you have any physical symptoms, get your thyroid checked.
May 16, 2010 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #685772d aMemberyitayningwut, thanks!
(cb1)
May 16, 2010 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #685773cherrybimParticipantHere’s another sure method:
May 16, 2010 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #685774d aMemberWhen that alarm rings, you must get up.
What happens if you don’t even hear the alarm?
May 16, 2010 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #685775cherrybimParticipantDrink a tall glass of water before bed; you will hear the alarm.
May 16, 2010 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #685776HIEParticipanti’m a mesivta bachur tenth grade, i’m not going to daf yomi shiurim, but something has been helping me for a while, and that is: in my yeshiva there is a volunteery learning seder for 35 minutes before davening at 7:00. so for a couple weeks i’ve been meeting someone in my class to bike to yeshiva, but the past two days i woke up soooo LATE cause i couldnt fall asleep, also cause i’m up late studying for CHEMISTRY, which is a MURDER regent. infact thursday night after going to koldkuts for chulent at midnight i was studying till 3:30 and i woke up VERRRRY late frida
May 16, 2010 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #685777d aMemberI drank tow cups of water before going to sleep last night.
I didn’t wake up to my alarm.
May 16, 2010 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #685778cherrybimParticipant“after going to koldkuts for chulent at midnight…I can’t fall asleep”
I’m not surprised that you can’t fall asleep after a midnight chulent meal, but I am surprised that you can wake up. Boruch m’chaye ha’meisim.
D a – Fill up your other leg.
May 16, 2010 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #685779yitayningwutParticipantd a, my pleasure 🙂
May 16, 2010 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #685780mischiefmakerMemberI do music but of course, ask your rav before. Also don’t use electronics (not including an ipod if that’s what ull use to fall asleep) for a few hours before going to bed. Don’t do exercise either for a few hours before.
May 17, 2010 1:18 am at 1:18 am #685781HIEParticipantwhats wrong with a GESHMAKE bowl of chulent thursday night after shteiging away in yeshiva for 3 hours
May 25, 2010 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm #685782d aMembercherrybim
D a – Fill up your other leg.
What do you mean by that?
June 1, 2010 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #685783blubluhParticipantYou physician would be a good person to consult, but the usual advice given to people who have trouble sleeping at night is:
1. Avoid caffeinated drinks at least 5 hours before bedtime.
2. Avoid strenuous activity at least an hour before bedtime.
3. Avoid napping during the day (and limit it on Shabbos).
4. Bedroom should be quiet, dark and slightly cooler than during the day (slightly cooler, not cold!)
5. Bedclothes shouldn’t be tight or restrictive
6. No pets in the bedroom (and certainly not on the bed)
7. Once in bed, try to rid one’s mind of upsetting thoughts and worries.
June 1, 2010 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #685784artchillParticipantLive within your means.
If you can’t personally afford the new Lexus or other mishugas to impress your friends (who are unimpressed because they know the truth anyways) you should push the idea out of your mind. You will live a happier life and sleep sounder knowing that you are living responsibly. Don’t expect your shver or parents to foot the bill for every whim.
June 2, 2010 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #685785sof davar hakol nishmaMemberlike some of you mentioned:
*avoid naps past 1-2 pm
*ask your posek about music – the answer i got was one shouldnt’ listen stam whenever you want and lechatchila one shouldn’t wake up and go to slp with music but if you cant’ fall asleep one may listen. (and my posek is VERY machmir abt music in general)
*exercise has been proven to help one slp better however one shouldn’t do it 3 hrs or less before going to bed.
*once in bed breathe in and out slowly and try to relax
June 3, 2010 3:26 am at 3:26 am #685786kapustaParticipantI am probably one out of a million people who this works for but I find if I cant fall asleep and I do exercise in bed (some sort of stretching. And I dont think this actually qualifies as the real stuff, just a way to fall asleep) I fall asleep within ten or fifteen minutes. Always works for me. (The problem arises in trying it for the first time ;))
June 3, 2010 7:11 am at 7:11 am #685787One of the chevraParticipantI once heard that R’ Moshe Feinstein Zatza”l said that he thanks Hashem every day when he wakes up not only for letting him wake up (modeh ani- shehechzarto bee nishmosi), but also for letting him fall asleep right away. He added that as long as he can remember he was blessed with the ability to fall asleep as soon as he lay down.
The brocho of “Hamapil” is exactly for that! Thanking Hashem for making you fall asleep! [Maybe Hamapil is like a “brocho rishona” (brocho before eating), and thanking Hashem in the morning for the sleep is like a “Brocha Achrona” (like bentching, borei nefoshos, al hamichya etc.).
Try saying Hamapil with kavanah! (don’t worry about not being able to talk after hamapil if you don’t fall asleep, there are those who hold that if you tried to sleep and can’t it’s not a brocho levatala and you can talk).
If we show Hashem that we appreciate it then he might give us the ability to sleep better, like in the case of R’ Moshe.
Good luck, and sleep well!
June 3, 2010 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #685788tomim tihyeMember“Odom L’omol Yulod”- “Man was born to toil”.
This is a recipe for falling asleep quickly. This may explain Rav Moshe’s ability to do so.
June 3, 2010 2:12 pm at 2:12 pm #685789blubluhParticipantRegarding the story about R’ Moshe, ZT”L, considering the weight of the world he carried on his shoulders, it was truly a neis that he could sleep each night, other than out of sheer exhaustion! What a gift we had in such a person in our time.
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