May 25, 2021 2:47 am at 2:47 am #1977118ShtarkButRelatableParticipant
As title states
Anyone who doesn’t appreciate herring should kindly keep scrollingMay 25, 2021 8:20 am at 8:20 am #1977187ChadGadyaParticipant
Red.May 25, 2021 10:14 am at 10:14 am #1977207Reb EliezerParticipant
PickledMay 25, 2021 10:18 am at 10:18 am #1977197lowerourtuition11210Participant
Schwartz’s shtigletsMay 25, 2021 10:18 am at 10:18 am #1977196catch yourselfParticipant
Finally, an important topic in the CR.
Matjas is my favorite, with Schmaltz a close second. Pickled is bal tashchis.
While some of the new types/flavors are tasty, I must make a Macha’ah because they are not part of the Mesorah. [That said, I will not turn down a piece of Jalapeno herring. The pepper-crusted ones are also delicious].May 25, 2021 10:33 am at 10:33 am #1977230☕️coffee addictParticipant
Cream sauceMay 25, 2021 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #1977298
CA – I agree.
For the others – Salt & oil are bad for your HEALTH!May 25, 2021 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #1977310hujuParticipant
Chocolate.May 25, 2021 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #1977361
cream sauce isn’t bad for your HEALTH?May 25, 2021 7:26 pm at 7:26 pm #1977366GadolhadorahParticipant
“While some of the new types/flavors are tasty, I must make a Macha’ah because they are not part of the Mesorah”
Sorry, but herring is not part of our “Mesorah” simply because it was a poor man’s “fish” in parts of the alte heim.May 25, 2021 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #1977371
what a dreary life you must live, gh.May 25, 2021 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #1977368
Participant -“cream sauce isn’t bad for your HEALTH?”
Not like Oil & Salt!May 25, 2021 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm #1977379BaltimoreMavenParticipant
Schwartz Original Shtiglitz. By far.
BH Schwartz delivers to Baltimore.May 25, 2021 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #1977383
Fresh and raw. If I make it to New York this week, I’ll check in on the bite.May 25, 2021 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #1977382
nothing wrong with a tad salt.May 25, 2021 8:22 pm at 8:22 pm #1977378
GH -“Sorry, but herring is not part of our “Mesorah” simply because it was a poor man’s “fish” in parts of the alte heim.”
Geez, just because you’re a Liberal – that doesn’t mean you gotta get everything Wrong!
They did pickle Herring to make it last longer.
So that was convinent for poor people.
But I knew a rich guy that was rich in Europe, before he came over.
He said that he went to the Shoreline and right when the the fishing boats came in, he would take the fresh Herring and eat it raw.
This was a delicacy.
So you see – it wasn’t the Japanese that discovered Sushi!May 25, 2021 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #1977402
You do not have to be rich to eat fresh herring. It depends on the time of year. Now is the best time.May 25, 2021 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #1977377GadolhadorahParticipant
Participant: I would respectfully submit that if you contemplate a big chunk of oily Matjas on a slice of dark pumpernickel shmeared with schmaltz as your idea of “excitement”, than the dreariness is a reflection of what you see in the mirror. True excitement is a bluefin and yellowtail tuna inside out sushi roll with brown rice and nori with only a small dab of wasabi. It is also more consistent with Mesorah whose prime directive for personal behavior and nutrition is u’shmartem es nafshosechem.May 25, 2021 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #1977416🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Just ewwMay 25, 2021 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #1977421
I was referring to your absolute lack of humor, evident in taking cy’s post literally.May 25, 2021 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1977427MosheFromMidwoodParticipant
I’m olf fashioned and still prefer the pickled herring with the skin and bones intact. Otherwise, its Matjes. Really do not care for some of the weird varieties out thereMay 25, 2021 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm #1977442
The prime directive for behavior is kol she’he tiferes l’Adam v’tiferes l’oseha..May 26, 2021 11:00 am at 11:00 am #1977588catch yourselfParticipant
GH: I could belabor the point by referring to the numerous Mishnayos, Gemaros, Halachos, etc. that mention and discuss מליח הישן and קוליס האספנין.
Instead, I’ll just clarify the point, because you apparently are from Rio Linda:
Lighten up.May 26, 2021 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #1977606
Now this thread has gotten too serious. I sense a red herring…..May 26, 2021 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #1977655TASParticipant
I really enjoy herring. Is it true that herring isn’t cooked?May 26, 2021 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #1977742MosheFromMidwoodParticipant
Right, herring is not cooked. It is marinated. But also, it is edible straight from the ocean, though very salty. My mother AH used to buy it fresh and then just let it soak overnight to make less salty, then filet it and that is how we ate itJune 1, 2021 7:56 am at 7:56 am #1979260FivetownsbuchurParticipant
I like Berel and shmeril’s. Good stuff.June 1, 2021 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #1979542se2015Participant
“Sorry, but herring is not part of our “Mesorah” simply because it was a poor man’s “fish” in parts of the alte heim.”
It goes back much further than that.
זָכַ֨רְנוּ֙ אֶת־הַדָּגָ֔ה אֲשֶׁר־נֹאכַ֥ל בְּמִצְרַ֖יִם חִנָּ֑ם
The only free fish worth waxing nostalgic over is the herring served at a kiddush. Of course, there are other free fishes in Jewish life (e.g., lox at a bris, tuna salad at shalosh seudos) but they’re either not nostalgia inducing or are too infrequently enjoyed free to make sense in context. Granted someone makes or sponsors a kiddush so the herring isn’t really free, but it is free to eat, and that is what the complainers remembered. Careful reading of the pasuk shows that they remembered that the eating was free, not that the fish itself was free.June 2, 2021 10:40 am at 10:40 am #1979687Reb EliezerParticipant
Rashi says by Yisro, ma shemuah shoma, wossere ‘herring’ hat er gehert? What kind of hearing (news) did he hear?June 2, 2021 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #1979742hujuParticipant
When Baskin-Robbins opened its first store more than 60 years ago, it offered 31 kinds of herring, but no ice cream. It nearly went out of business, until someone suggested ice cream instead of herring, and they took the advice.June 2, 2021 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #1979842
the good kichel is the sugary type. the flat crackery type is tasteless.
but I guess eaten with herring it’s some people’s idea of fish ‘n chips.June 2, 2021 8:41 pm at 8:41 pm #1979841☕️coffee addictParticipant
And that’s why it is served during the kiddush club too!
It all makes sense nowJune 3, 2021 9:45 am at 9:45 am #1979963twistedParticipant
Gadol H and others: Take care with consuming tuna and salmon, They are apex predators and accumulators of heavy metals. Salmon has the distinction of being mostly farmed fish, full of antibiotic and anti parasitic meds. The pellets that they are fed come from any fat and protein sources they can find cheapest. The fat content is stabilized with a product of Monsanto (yemach shemam) The artificial diet often does not produce great flavor or orange flesh. This is remediated with artificial dyes and flavor infusions. This is the going menu for American and Norwegian product, For Asian suppliers the picture is way bleaker
In my younger years before I became an extremist vegetarian, I caught herring off south shore Long Island, When the fish were opened, there was a black slime on the belly wall. An old timer told me this was result of pollution. Sorry.June 3, 2021 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #1980039
I seriously doubt that old timer’s knowledge. If it was gutted correctly [i. e. Kosher] than it should not have been anything from outside the fish. But to be honest, they say fishing areas are a lot less polluted than they were decades ago. Any idea it was Blueback or Alewife?June 3, 2021 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #1980100essmeirParticipant
“Is Bismarck a herring?”June 3, 2021 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #1980122
It was. And it is.June 5, 2021 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm #1980324twistedParticipant
nOm I have gutted many fish, salt and fresh water, and this was unusual. A sticky black residue stuck to the belly wall after gutting, It would peel off with fingernail or knife, Of course fresh water contamination in NYS is invisible heavy metal, with famous state advisory to consume no more than once a month, and if pregnant noneJune 6, 2021 1:54 am at 1:54 am #1980411
Isn’t that just black belly wall lining?June 14, 2021 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #1983029zfriendlyParticipant
Raskins pepper crusted madjes in my fave. I miss the catskill hotels pickled salmon in real cream with onions of course! Neither one would score without a half a cup of Glen
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