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My questions are about the prohibition of forgetting Torah learning. For a little background, sometimes I can Baruch Hashem remember some things after hearing them once years before, other things I can’t remember even after many reviews. I’ve forgotten Torah after eeviewing ten times and again on Shabbos, and other thigns that I had gone over and known well for a long time. I haven’t found anything that helps me which I have the time and concentration to do, but I could manage if it wasn’t for this problem. SO my questions:
1) Does one get an aveirah every time he forgets?
2) Is the prohibition violated right away, even as you’re learning, or only after a while?
3) Is there a certain amount of reviews after which you don’t have to worry about this?
4) What’s considered difficult in that if you can’t remember it it’s an oneis? What if you understand it,but know you’ll lose it or have already lost it?
5) After 120, will I remeber what I have forgotten?
6) Should you chazer something you’ve already forgotten, if you think you’ll forget again?
7) Is there a problem with listening to Divrei Torah since I know I can’t memorize an entire speech? What about the Seder?
8) Do you have to remember everyhting, or just the main details?
9) How often should I chazer? I heard to review when you’re memory span is at it’s limit, but I sometimes forget while I’m leanring, so…
10) I literally can not do anything without something going on in the back of my head, which is a part of the problem. I’ve tried madicatin, long story. Does this affect anything, since it means I am not concentrating 100 perecent?
11) Is something learnt silently considered learning?
12) How do I do teshuvah for this?
13) How is it possible for anyone to review everything they’ve learnt regularly enough to remeber it all?
14) How can I go onto new things If I can’t even hold onto the old things?
15)Do you need to be able to remember everything instantly, or is it enough to be able to remeber details if asked specifically about them?
Thanks so much, sorry for the whole megilla, but please, if possible, answer what you can.
Dude, reality check. The human brain is not perfect. It forgets all sorts of things. That’s just how it’s put together. Only a few freakish outliers have perfect memories, and even then it’s only for certain things. Unless neuroscience and genetic engineering advance way past anything we can imagine everyone will always forget things they’ve learned. And if that happened we wouldn’t be human any longer.
So study. Remember what you can. And don’t beat yourself up about it. This is the way the Lord made you. If it’s a sin to have an imperfect body then we might as well pack it up because everyone is going to gehennom.
the gemarah in megilah says that remembering torah is siyattah dishmaya. the only thing to do is chazer and daven to Hashem to remember your learning
I thought I remembered learning somewhere that in some cases (not all cases);
Forgetting Torah might be a consequence of not studying and learning when someone should have been studying and chose not to.
Something like; “If you choose to not learn for on day it will be forgotton two days” meaning that a person would have to work two days, to relearn what he forgot over one day, if he was deliberately negligent in not learning.
Work and other obligations are of course not negligence.
But if someone knew that a certain time, was the time he should have been studying, and deliberately decided it wasn’t important to “bother with”, that would be negligence.
Of course there are many reasons why someone might forget, and each person knows themselves and whether they are learning as much as they should.
Leaving a Sefer open unattended can be a cause of forgetting Torah.
to answer number 11 the gemarah in eruvin says that you should learn out loud because there was someone who used to learn without saying the words out loud and he forgot his learning
if you read this weeks mishpacha, Reb Moshe said “if you learn something 600 times you won’t forget it”
Why would you get an aveirah for forgetting something?
1) Does one get an aveirah every time he forgets? that’s what’s brought down, but i think it only applies if he was negligent and that’s why he forgot
2) Is the prohibition violated right away, even as you’re learning, or only after a while? as soon as you forget it
3) Is there a certain amount of reviews after which you don’t have to worry about this? if a person is engrossed in learning it might not apply, i think it applies if you don’t learn consistently and that’s why you’re blamed for forgetting your learning
4) What’s considered difficult in that if you can’t remember it it’s an oneis? What if you understand it,but know you’ll lose it or have already lost it?
5) After 120, will I remeber what I have forgotten? YES, you’ll only know what you’ve learnt in the past
6) Should you chazer something you’ve already forgotten, if you think you’ll forget again? yes
7) Is there a problem with listening to Divrei Torah since I know I can’t memorize an entire speech? What about the Seder? no problem the more you learn the more you’ll remember even if it’s a different topic
8) Do you have to remember everyhting, or just the main details?
9) How often should I chazer? I heard to review when you’re memory span is at it’s limit, but I sometimes forget while I’m leanring, so… 4 times
10) I literally can not do anything without something going on in the back of my head, which is a part of the problem. I’ve tried madicatin, long story. Does this affect anything, since it means I am not concentrating 100 perecent? no
11) Is something learnt silently considered learning? yes
12) How do I do teshuvah for this? learn, spend more time learning
13) How is it possible for anyone to review everything they’ve learnt regularly enough to remeber it all? not possible
14) How can I go onto new things If I can’t even hold onto the old things? when learning new things old things come back to you
15)Do you need to be able to remember everything instantly, or is it enough to be able to remeber details if asked specifically about them?
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