October 12, 2010 6:06 pm at 6:06 pm #699972
freezing does to a bug what blending does, namely causes it to fall apart. as with everything it should have a hechsher.October 12, 2010 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #699973
Who says freezing makes them brittle? I asked a Rav and he said freezing is JUST AS ASSUR AS RAW if it was unchecked!October 12, 2010 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #699974
star k site says frzen is ok but pureed is preferableOctober 12, 2010 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #699975mghanooniMember
I think it’s best to buy fresh broccoli and cut off the florets (where the bugs hide). Then wash the stems and branches. Works for asparagus also.October 12, 2010 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #699976cherrybimParticipant
And why was my post deleted yesterday?October 12, 2010 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #699977Dave HirschParticipant
Let me clarify something that some of you got wrong. Freezing or Blending infested produce won’t change the status of its Issur. If something is Muchzak B’Tolaim (such as Broccoli) nothing can be done besides removing all worms. The rule of Batul doesn’t apply once it is Assur (Ein Mevatlim Issur Lechatchila). The only time blending (or freezing according to some, if the insects disintegrate) helps is if it is Muchzak Naki (accepted as clean). Bodek (and Eden as an extra precaution) relies on this leniency to freeze their products after a thorough cleaning using special methods and machinery. They clean the produce which then (according to them) becomes Muchzak Naki and then freeze it. The extra step is necessary to remove all whole insects that might’ve stayed (as a whole insect is a Berye which doesn’t become Botul) even after cleaning. They then rely on Bittul. Rav Vaye maintains that the cleaning method doesn’t change the status from Muchzak B’Tolaim to Muchzak Naki (as it doesn’t remove all insects) therefore it is prohibited.October 12, 2010 8:01 pm at 8:01 pm #699978YW Moderator-80Member
thank you dave for clarifying thatOctober 12, 2010 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #699979Dave HirschParticipant
My pleasure @ Mod. I Daven every day Lilmod Ulelameid… If I get an opportunity to share some of my knowledge I use it.October 12, 2010 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #699980
Thanks for all that. Can you tell me your source for that last post?October 12, 2010 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm #699981
it’s in ahavas olam.
oh you meant the other one I heard up until the R vaye part as well.October 12, 2010 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #699982
Who are you talking to?October 12, 2010 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #699983
you.October 12, 2010 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #699984hello99Participant
Dave Hirsch: blending is muttar even if there is a safek or miut hamatzui of bugs and it need NOT be muchzak naki, b/c there is no issur to be mevatel a safek issur l’chatchila. Shach YD 89 and Terumas HaDeshen brought in YD 84. Therefore if veges are grown in a way that makes them less that rov likely to be infested they may be ground.October 12, 2010 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #699985OfcourseMember
If most people use Eden and Bodek for frozen brocoli, who in BP (Heiligtown) is buying all the Golden Flow frozen brocoli that is heavily stocked on all the supermarket shelves all over the place?
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